View Full Version : Does Trainz do this?
cyberstorm
12-17-2001, 02:50 AM
Hi Guys
As we all know, much was promised in the functionality of Trainz over MSTS, but now that the real Trainz is out, and some of you know what its capable of, can you tell me if the following areas are covered as I wish to build a swiss mountain railway
1) Narrow guage
2) Rack and pinion
3) 30+ degree slopes
4) electric pantographs and overhead wires
5) mountains over 12000 ft
6) for self designed trainz, what 3d package?
7) Importing Dem data?
8) Water effects, rivers waterfalls
9) snow textures
Your help is much appreciated
Terry
dyvach
12-17-2001, 04:00 AM
I don't have access to Trainz at the moment, so i'll answer just the ones i can from memory...
2) Doesn't look like it.
3) Probably, but without 2) i doubt you'd move any loco up such slope....
4) Yes, although it's purely decorative -- i.e., electric locos can run on tracks without wires as well.
6) Currently, there's only one exporter, for discreet's 3dMax.(versions 3 and 4) More exporters should be available in the near future.
7) Greyscale .bmp pictures can be applied as displacement maps in Surveyor. You can convert DEMs to these with MicroDEM or similar program, so...yes.
8) No; there's some animation of water, but nothing really fancy. It pretty much just is, "and that's all there's to it".
9) Not sure, but you'll probably need to make your own textures for it. This shouldn't be hard to do, though.
cyberstorm
12-17-2001, 08:47 AM
Its a shame, narrow guage and rack and pinion were touted about the MSTS as been functions of Trainz, steep slopes aren't a problem when you can modify the engine properties so I guess it'll have to be done in T**** S********. :-(
Terry
rabid
12-17-2001, 01:55 PM
Terry, read this:
http://www.auran.com/trainz/coming.htm
especially the part which says:
"Yardmaster supports multiple gauge rail and a variety of track types including rack and pinion. Now you can make that 1 in 10 railway to the hillside lookout a reality!"
cyberstorm
12-17-2001, 02:10 PM
Cheers, I thought I heard that somewhere offical, so thats trainz plus yardmaster plus some 3d package.
How high can you go, 12000 ft? thats the height of the Jungfraubahn
What sort of pre made buildings ? are there any german/swiss type?
Terry
PaulD
12-19-2001, 12:14 AM
The hight limit appears to be 2000 meters above what they call "0" and 300 meters below "0"
cyberstorm
12-19-2001, 04:44 AM
Oh Damn! that meens the top 1500 m would be flattened off the alpine DEM data I have, wouldnt work even if I put interlaken at -300 meters, guess it will have to be done in MSTS after all, at least I need not buy anything else since I know how to to those things in MSTS. Probably still buy trainz though, depends on how people like it now its actually out, but looks favourable so far.
Thanks for the help
Terry
Trainfiend
12-19-2001, 05:05 AM
LAST EDITED ON Dec-19-01 AT 05:07AM (EST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Dec-19-01 AT 05:06*AM (EST)
Of course, by splitting a route into 2 sections, you could rise 6,000ft in one and then the remaining 6,000 ft in the 2nd section, thereby reaching the summit. In fact, you could even create multiple layouts starting at various heights. The only way you would actually know the elevation is by the increasing amounts of snow as you gained altitude.
Also, there are many German and Swiss Alpine buildings that will be released early in the new year.
cyberstorm
12-19-2001, 07:28 AM
Er, this is the area I want to model,
http://www.jungfraubahn.ch/deutsch/pages/RE/RE_JnKe2.htm
where would you suggest a break? Kleine Scheideg or Grindlewald, I would want to see the Eiger, Jungfrau,Monch etc on both baseboards otherwise its not worth it. Although the Junfrau Bahn is a separate railway from Kleine Scheideg so a break there is possible.
My first route would be the smaller Wilderswill to Schynige Platte though.
Terry
lfcbiggs
08-11-2010, 11:15 AM
Hi there
I know this was a long time ago, but I was just wondering if you ever managed to complete the model. I have been going to the Jungfrau area for over 18 years (I go a couple of times a year) and since I started using MSTS, I have always been looking for routes from the area.
I did start trying to replicate the area for MSTS but I found the route creater too complicated to use and I quickly ran out of time.
The closest I have found so far would have been in MSTS2, where one of the routes was going to finish in Interlaken (I think), but this has obviously since been scrapped. Even so, it still wouldn't have been the same as driving a WAB train from Lauterbrunnen or Grindlewald to Kleine Scheideg or through the Eiger up to Jungfraujoch
sniper297
08-11-2010, 11:51 AM
Welcome to the forums. In any forum including this one, it's not advisable to "bump" old posts - this one is a good example, the guy who posted that nine years ago is listed as a "guest" meaning he's not even a member here anymore, you're talking to a memory.
lfcbiggs
08-11-2010, 05:51 PM
Sorry, I was not intentionally bumping it. I know it is old but I have not been able to find anything else relating to that area of Switzerland, and when I found this thread through a google search, I thought it was worth a go.
I had not seen that he is a guest so my mistake there - as I said, I knew it was a long shot but I thought it was worth a try.
sniper297
08-11-2010, 07:21 PM
Quick search of the official Auran website turns up this;
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=5082&highlight=jungfrau
But even that one is 3 years old, and the link to the "Cyberstorm's home page" returns a 404 error. I don't see anything about anyone currently building a jungfrau route there, so if you really really want it you may have to build it yourself.
lfcbiggs
08-11-2010, 09:22 PM
Okay well thanks very much for your help anyway. It seems my search will go on.
Although as you suggested, I may have another attempt at building it myself, possibly with some different software.
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