American Truck Sim

[NorthernWarrior]

To be honest I found Run 8 MP a bit pointless, as I commented at the time. More like a chat room for the "clique". Drove a train a short way, parked it up in a yard intending to come back later with a note - "Please don't move or delete" - only to find some kind soul had deleted it. I would rather enjoy my own little world in SP.

That was a bit OT but there seem to be so many updates coming for ETS2 and ATS at the moment I'm staying in vanilla, at least as regards map mods.

[SMRY]

Fair enough Sean, everyone must make their own choices buddy

Scott if you install mods manually and then ATS updates to a new full version, say 1.44 to 1.45. Some of the mods get broken and they have to be replaced manually. When the mod author updates them. Not a big deal really buddy. I only play single player and never played WOT contracts. I always thought that MP would have the usual fools, only interested in causing mayhem. As an aside i had a quick look at Run8 MP yesterday on the Depot public server, but there wasn't anybody on there.

Mike.

Morning Mike, TS Family,
Yes, Mike aware need to update mods at times to work with new ATS as they upgrade from time to time. Dependent on 3rd party mods some don't upgrade their creations quickly enough, &, or, not at all. Just grew rather old, I still keep the WOT contracts alive as I do enjoy the extra choices in the contracts offered. Just adds an extra tab alongside the others in which to choose from, no MP per say, Also, the contracts pay a little more, at times leads to other interesting trips. When I started out using TruckersMP was rather nice. Those that I joined worked together very nicely, was fun being part of planned convoys here & there, interacting via CB-Radio, gave a sense of realness. Then I believe many of the hateful RLSS began to follow me as I boasted of the fun, I enjoyed within ATS. Result was to kill off the O'l Man, thus, many Truckers gave up, not unlike myself.

As to R8Depot, they have their place, a fine spot to collect maps , info. as to MP, there too, when in its infancy, some became rotten, thus, I stay away. RTSX was my best experience in the MP arena, esp. during V1 days. The RTS tools of the day could be challenging, even that in itself added a realm of realness. To this day I still enjoy RTSX alongside Run8, both complement one another. Just sharing emails, ideas, wants, wishes with one another nice to go alongside Run8. Gosh those early RTSX sessions where Sean / Myself often found us as TagTeam during MP were just wonderful, often he'd play the role of Engman while I the Ground-Pounder, a position I enjoy most. Somehow, we both just fit into that cog. I also follow Highball-Run8 at times. They too have a fine following, most in it for the sense of realness, they too offer fine tools for those that care to implement them. Hell, I even tried operating a server/ discord, you name them, all lonely places, hell, I rarely visit my own forum, just no point. These days I find it very difficult to remember key commands, my sense of direction in the playing world. With the O'l eyes failing somedays better than others. The O'l memory banks, another story unto itself. I can remember the here & now, other times can't remember minute by minute, while able to remember details of long ago, other days, just the opposite, thus, I've pretty much backed away from all things MP, not wanting to slow a working MP-Server. TS is my sense of MP these days. Even here, some days more challenging typing out my mini novels. I feel like John-Boy of TS-Mountain, now we must visit the Baldwin Sisters for a touch of "The Recipe" one of these days.

[ex-railwayman]

Morning Mike, TS Family,
Yes, Mike aware need to update mods at times to work with new ATS as they upgrade from time to time. Dependent on 3rd party mods some don't upgrade their creations quickly enough, &, or, not at all.

Yes, this has been one of my biggest gripes since ATS started, it's not too bad for content on Steam Workshop, but, other 3rd party websites seem to take forever to get things updated. i had to drive the default content until my favourite trucks were drivable again, most annoying.......

I like the new State of Montana, SCS seem to get better with every new release they put on Steam, Texas looks very good as well, the game is still hugely entertaining after, what is it now 6 years, long may it continue.

Cheerz. Steve.

[haverfordwest]

Sorry Scott, wasn't trying to teach you to suck eggs buddy

What is RTSX, never heard of that Scott ? I am not a regular MP player in anything and i understood that the Depot public was quite forgiving of beginners. I doubt i will persue MP anyway, being a bit of a loner these days.

With you in regards the memory banks and eyes Scott, it all starts to fail with age.

Steve agree with you about some mods taking a while to be updated and it can be frustrating. Montana is excellent and i guess they get better at map making, with experience. Plus better game technology as the game gets older.

I do not hesitate to buy the DLC whatever it is for ATS and ETS2 and i am 100% complete with both.

Looking forward to the day (if i am still here), when all the US states have been added.

Mike.

[SMRY]

Sorry Scott, wasn't trying to teach you to suck eggs buddy

What is RTSX, never heard of that Scott ? I am not a regular MP player in anything and i understood that the Depot public was quite forgiving of beginners. I doubt i will persue MP anyway, being a bit of a loner these days.

With you in regards the memory banks and eyes Scott, it all starts to fail with age.

Steve agree with you about some mods taking a while to be updated and it can be frustrating. Montana is excellent and i guess they get better at map making, with experience. Plus better game technology as the game gets older.

I do not hesitate to buy the DLC whatever it is for ATS and ETS2 and i am 100% complete with both.

Looking forward to the day (if i am still here), when all the US states have been added.

Mike.

Thank You Mike, though sadly, no eggs for me, 1- lost the taste for them, 2- plenty of Rotten Eggs continually thrown my direction from the RLSS.

RTSX, that would be Seans RTS, at some point while RTS was silent for a time. I added "X" as Pvt Owner.

Yes, I believe The Depot maintains 2 styles of MP for the most part. MP1- for the general public to get their feet wet, many, move onto the next phase at The Depot, MP2- which is more structured, geared towards further realness, Rules, Regulations, Paperwork, & working together as a crew member in depth so to speak.

I believe HighballRun8 to be along the same lines / style. While offering their own sense of style. Myself I'm an RTSX lifer, though I don't partake a more active role in the MP-sessions of the times. More of a background role, Sean & Myself active just about daily behind the scenes. I like the fact, can have our differences at times, not going to pull the plug on one another like others of the past. "We agree, to disagree" without dung chuckin..lol... Hell even lightly "dung-chuckin" between us we both understand / know all in good fun, &, allowed to Rolloff the shoulders, trickle down to "Farming Simulator", lol

I maintain both ATS & ETS, via Steam updates, just to stay current. However, ETS I don't bother opening, ATS is homeland.
The addon-packs for paint scheme I've not bothered with, for the bulk of the trucks I see every day those fancy stripes / murals. Polished Alum, etc. just too expensive for the common driver, let alone any sizable fleet to maintain. I recall a realworld friend Joey (rip) drove for both Holmes & St. Johnsbury Trucking over the years, eventually went out on his own as an independent OO (Owner-Operator). His truck was quite fancy, but it didn't take long for shippers to back away from shipping goods with him, sighting too much/many liabilities. Joey told me several times, they stopped shipping with him, for they felt should something go wrong they be on the hook for a big fancy truck. Eventually he was forced to sell the truck, returned to the former terminals if he wanted to continue his driving.

I do have one wish for ATS/ETS & had approached the dev on numerous occasions.
I'd like to see them allow users to apply their own Co. stencils, logos, names etc. on the tractors for starters, in any colors & fonts users choose as well. To me most realistic, without that feature something's lost. Certainly not a deal breaker, I merely chock up to "perhaps one day".

An idea I've always felt would be grand the blending of ATS/Run8 so to speak, where while esp. MP for starters those that would like to drive truck could, while the RR operated as well, the 2 intertwined. I suppose SP-mode the same could be fun, esp., having AI truckdrivers doing their thing while RR AI did their thing alongside, all while the user preformed his/her chosen position RR/Trucker.

[haverfordwest]

I don't like eggs much either Scott. RL the most toxic game community, known to mankind

Oh i see Sean's server, he doesn't do that anymore i believe. Or i would have had a go buddy.

Yes Depot Public and Depot + which it does say is more for experienced users, which leaves me out

Yeah well everyone has differences at times, Scott. Just human nature, doesn't have to end in a bust up though.
Yeah that's the way, i like a good laugh myself. Plus if i wind others up in a friendly way, my shoulders are broad enough to have it back.

I don't play ETS2 as much as ATS. When i do it's on one map mod. Grand Utopia, which is a 1:1 scale stand alone map. I never use half the DLC i own Scott, just purchased it to support SCS. As i think they do an excellent job and give value for money. All my trucks are plain darkish red livery. Yeah well someone with a fancy truck, would also mean a big fancy claim if anything went wrong buddy.

You can apply your own liveries in both games Scott. By creating your own reskins for trucks and trailers, by adding them as mods. Oh yes that would be fun a combined truck and train driving simulator. Even long distance rail freight, delivered to freight yards. For local delivery by truck, buddy.

Mike.

[SurvivorSean]

MP is pointless in ATS in my opinon. Run8 when you work as a team a railroad is in operation. Run8 as a chat room are the ones I avoid. ATS with all it's glory can even show you trucks in your fleet passing you down the highway. I think that would be pretty cool, but it's a minor thing.

Thanks

Sean

[SMRY]

I don't like eggs much either Scott. RL the most toxic game community, known to mankind

Oh i see Sean's server, he doesn't do that anymore i believe. Or i would have had a go buddy.

Yes Depot Public and Depot + which it does say is more for experienced users, which leaves me out

Yeah well everyone has differences at times, Scott. Just human nature, doesn't have to end in a bust up though.
Yeah that's the way, i like a good laugh myself. Plus if i wind others up in a friendly way, my shoulders are broad enough to have it back.

I don't play ETS2 as much as ATS. When i do it's on one map mod. Grand Utopia, which is a 1:1 scale stand alone map. I never use half the DLC i own Scott, just purchased it to support SCS. As i think they do an excellent job and give value for money. All my trucks are plain darkish red livery. Yeah well someone with a fancy truck, would also mean a big fancy claim if anything went wrong buddy.

You can apply your own liveries in both games Scott. By creating your own reskins for trucks and trailers, by adding them as mods. Oh yes that would be fun a combined truck and train driving simulator. Even long distance rail freight, delivered to freight yards. For local delivery by truck, buddy.

Mike.

Yes, precisely Mike what I had in mind with that last portion, truckers having their place in a Train sim, (World-Sim) further delivering goods to the customers not having rail access directly. Hell, even the larger RRs have trucks / buses of their own which could also add another relm along the way. Esp. those into Passenger Ops. lol how about a Farming portion of the simulator. With SMRY I had envisioned my use of both Safety Valves & Industry Systems which I called "Adopt-An-Industry" where users would bid, own an open industry so to speak. They would control all that happened within its walls deciding types of cars, amounts, schedule times/when/where pickup/drop even preferred spotting positions if lots of tracks available etc. call the RR to make those arrangements happen. More than one person could help own/operate the business if desired. Even the sale of the business should a user become sick of it. Offer back to the community, where another/others could either continue the same, or even move in as a new business under a new name & even new line of products, which may require other style railcars different than last owner(s). The railroad itself would remain a team effort for all. I could see the same happening for the Trucking side while blending the 2/3 styles of simulators. So many options for sure. Both the RR geared Industries & Trucking geared industries could utilize both modes of transport or remain one side or the other with one mode of transport only, if desired. Could even shutdown industries for plant upgrades, restructuring, things of that nature, thus causing the RR to work with them in cutting back deliveries / pickups at times (CRS=Customized-Rail-Service). Even go out of business should no one wish to pick-up the pieces from time to time, should the community not wish to keep open as a group. Sorry, I could go on & on, surely building a picture thus far.

[SMRY]

Oh, by the way Mike. I'm indeed an O'l Egg, you've most likely learned, I've been "Cracked" for a time now. If not, give it time, I'll rub off on you, you'll soon be "Scrabbled", if not already? "Come-En-Git-It".

[haverfordwest]

This is getting a bit complicated now Scott. I better put my tin foil hat on buddy

I was scrabbled or even scrambled long ago, hahahahahahaha.

Fairbanks to Anchorage.





Mike.

[SMRY]

I do like those shots Mike, Sadly, (Martin Bros. Trucking) still in it's infancy. Just a set of those rear fenders would break the bank at this time. I can only hope for better days as long as the Martin Brothers can stay afloat. Thankfully, the outstanding depts had been paid off long ago. Haven't upgraded our lone Garage located in Elko, Hired the lowest of the low drivers at the time. Now they're both right up there with the best of the rest, proud of them. One day will try a truck with a basic sleeper, just not yet. I'm the cheaper of the Martin Bros. Somewhat like Counts Customs, Danny wants to spend spend, spend, while his partner wants to save, save, save.

[SurvivorSean]

As Scott knows I like to play vanilla (though I certainly admire all the work in the mods). Like Scott back in ETS I believe I downloaded a mod once with real life carriers or something. Haven't really looked back into it.

I find this sim more than any other sim out there has a very long play life to it. I'm going along right now about to pay off what I hope is my last loan with about a dozen employees and 3 garages. I have all the DLC maps and 1 DLC heavy hauler that came with one of the combos for a cheaper price than buying them together or something.

I like the idea and challenge of having to grind, save up, and the strategy involved. The only thing I may want to do differently is real economy mod or something that forces some of the other expenses like regular maintenance, meals, etc.

Thanks

Sean

[haverfordwest]

You miser Scott, get the money cheat buddy and you can have it all, hehehehehehehe.

Fair play Sean, we all like to play in different ways. I just find the business side, a boring grind.

You NA boys love all that rampant capitalism, me i am a socialist

Mike.

[haverfordwest]

Just starting a run, Montana to SoCal. Shame the trailer is sitting on the mud guards.









Mike.

[SurvivorSean]

Ah yes free money is so rewarding At least you get to play with all the goodies. Of course there are many ways to play and enjoy. There are lots of cool mods out there.

As my son is saying as I type this we probably won't add mods until all the states are out and it gets repetitive and boring. We are just filling in some of the places we haven't been yet.

It's not so much about capitalism it's more about purpose more than anything. For example in real life I'm not super ambitious and hold multiple jobs, or trying to find better jobs. I get very comfortable in things I'm used to and try and remain loyal to stuff I like if that makes sense.

Thanks

Sean