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  • NorthernWarrior
    5000 Post Veteran

    • Apr 2007
    • 6638
    • Swindon, England

    #241
    I did try messaging you but think you were out of range. I found the AI signallers were checking me down at the Home Signal at each block post, combined with the loco running poorly, was making me late.

    Hopefully keep the pressure on regarding the save game and single player.
    Vern.

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    • SurvivorSean
      2500 Post Veteran
      • Apr 2001
      • 3419
      • St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.

      #242
      I probably won't be playing it much. So you need 6 hours of dispatching experience to get into the new big chair. Some people have obviously already grinded for this because if you look at the servers now almost every one has at least 1 dispatcher in it even with no players. They need more of the complex dispatching brought in for players. Not to mention private servers or single player worlds. Apparently AI is coming to single player with saves which tells me this might be possible, we will see.

      I'm busy with my own stuff right now to worry about it.

      Thanks

      Sean
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      • NorthernWarrior
        5000 Post Veteran

        • Apr 2007
        • 6638
        • Swindon, England

        #243
        It looks like despite the earlier statements on Steam etc., they are backpedalling on the Save Game...

        From the official forum this morning:

        "Improvements to single player scenarios are planned. Unfortunately I cannot give any promises about adding savegames - could adding more variants split into shorter legs be sufficient solution for you?

        As for scenario editor, this is all planned but likely after Early Access phase."


        Well I guess it is what it is, played over 2 hours now so can only wait and see what happens.
        Vern.

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        • haverfordwest
          5000 Post Veteran

          • May 2010
          • 5248
          • Johnston, S.W.WALES
          • General

          #244
          I feel an uninstall coming on.

          Mike.
          Yma O Hyd

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          • NorthernWarrior
            5000 Post Veteran

            • Apr 2007
            • 6638
            • Swindon, England

            #245
            Don't blame you Mike, just wish I hadn't rushed back in to purchase it again. More and more seems like a game barely out of Alpha, doesn't IMHO even warrant an early access label.

            Also appears to be increasing outbreaks of fanboyism and rose tinted views on the official forum...
            Last edited by NorthernWarrior; 01-16-2023, 10:09.
            Vern.

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            • haverfordwest
              5000 Post Veteran

              • May 2010
              • 5248
              • Johnston, S.W.WALES
              • General

              #246
              Completely agree with you Vern, bad move rushing in and even worse for you.

              As you did escape the mediocrity, the first time around.

              Lesson learned and good job it didn't cost loads of money.

              Yes buddy i noticed that earlier. No idea why people feel the urge to protect the developers at all costs.

              Must be a modern thing Vern, beyond my comprehension.

              Mike.
              Yma O Hyd

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              • SurvivorSean
                2500 Post Veteran
                • Apr 2001
                • 3419
                • St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.

                #247
                Well someone here asked about a roadmap and there is one right on the Steam page. No where did it ever say anything about a save function. Now I have noticed more people like you guys don't like the current single player. Personally I would love to see what I've already mentioned. But you bought in on hope, and people are supposed to feel bad for you?

                Hey I was on the fence and to be honest I will not use it that much. I'm pretty sure more desks will become available and things to enhance the MP side (which is what they are really targeting).

                I was accused of being a fanboy for Run8 and I haven't used it in months now, despite the program doing exactly what it said it would do. If we want to go there lets go further "new regions" (plural) was announced immediately when V3 hit. I bought it anyways because I was still trying things and the AI dispatcher sold me. We have had 1 new region and no official position about anything new.

                But lets waste our time and bitch and moan about everything right? Granted I've been guilty of doing that exact same thing. Well now I'm doing something about it on my own schedule with my own teammate. We haven't promised or announced anything but I do talk about it because that is my focus.

                Right now there are few if any train sims that are important to me. When Run8 delivers great, until then I got my money's worth. SimRail we will see but again weeks of free play I got my money's worth. Anything DTG to me is utter grabage. Trainz I also got my moeny's worth for 15 dollars and almost buit a route but stopped because I wasn't happy with it.

                Words mean absolutely NOTHING. What counts is does the current sim have what I want. If you are buying in on hope, I'm afraid that is a risk you've taken. Don't blame the people who are happy with what they have or content on paying for what they already got. You guys call it defending developers, I call it reality. They paid for what they got not what they're going to get. It was a hard lesson that I had to learn myself. Complaining about it is an utter waste of time.

                Thanks

                Sean
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                • NorthernWarrior
                  5000 Post Veteran

                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6638
                  • Swindon, England

                  #248
                  A save game shouldn't even have had to be on the roadmap, it should have been part and parcel of the specification from Day 1.
                  Vern.

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                  • haverfordwest
                    5000 Post Veteran

                    • May 2010
                    • 5248
                    • Johnston, S.W.WALES
                    • General

                    #249
                    Exactly Vern, concur completely.

                    Sean you are a really caring sharing person...........NOT. You are now in my ignore list.

                    Mike.
                    Yma O Hyd

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                    • jorgen3
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 51

                      #250
                      Now I guess even I am in your ignore list. I think it's incredible whining by several people here.
                      Earlier and all the time, there are complaints about dovetail and TSW and now it is Simrail time.
                      Talking about refund all the time.
                      Develop your own train simulator then then it will be so incredibly good. it has Saves and run8 parts .....

                      Run8 is the only simulator that isn't complained about that much. But then run it all the time and try nothing else.
                      For my own part, I have all the simulators and think they all have their advantage. but I drive at least hours in run8
                      I get so bored. Graphics msts 2002. TSW have wonderful graphics but has its problems.

                      30 euro is for me 3 lunches. Not much money. You get 500 kilometers railway you get 5 trains. You get Multiplayer.
                      You dont get Saves but within a year I am sure it does. it is constantly evolving and for the better all the time
                      For me is Simrail is Run8+TSW. More Hard core train simulator with relative good graphics. + later editors

                      Hard to say now but this could be the best train simulator in a few years.
                      I have have driven real trains and this is the best feeling I've felt on any simulator in train feeling.

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                      • NorthernWarrior
                        5000 Post Veteran

                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6638
                        • Swindon, England

                        #251
                        Really great, Simrail.
                        Went on EN4, took over a freight on the southern route heading for Katowice. Managed to drive about 3km before being brought to a stand at a red signal alongside a passenger in the same direction. Signal box ahead controlled by a player, perusing the interactive map looks like he had just stopped all the trains so the AI controlling where I stood couldn't call a route forward for either my train or the AI.

                        Which is why MP is a lottery and yes you could get a good run, but I just wasted 30 minutes going nowhere which could have been spent more productively elsewhere. Which is why SimRail desperately needs the MP equivalent game available in SP (along with the ability to save of course).

                        And no one is saying TSW or TSC is perfect, they ain't. But SimRail is not the Holy Grail some thought it would be either.
                        Vern.

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                        • SurvivorSean
                          2500 Post Veteran
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 3419
                          • St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.

                          #252
                          Well as far as Mike I'm not sure what never I touched, but that is what the ignore button is for I guess.

                          It has it's issues and barely went into EA. I know there is lots of debate as to when a train is worthy of being EA, alpha, and every other designation a developer puts on a game. To me Railroader appears much further along but they will not release it yet as they want to get some more issues dealt with. That is a decision a developer makes and again it's all about risk and reward. By putting out software that is not complete it's going to tick some people off because they don't do their homework. The risk is how many people are going to be in that boat vs how much money can they generate along with help along the way from a player base who is interested in playing.

                          Honestly right now in my opinon of course Run8 was the best train simulator on the planet. They are not the best in North America. Simrail is the best train simulator in Europe. I remember having these conversations with people who were critical of Run8 (and yes I have been vocal with my criticism and praise of Run8). It appears to be a technically sound simulator with known AI issues.

                          From what I understand and it's difficult with translation SimRail was supposed to originally be ready for full release. But they ran into unexpected issues during the playtest. They put an olive branch out there saying they could create more scenerios if it helped. But these scenerios don't even have random AI. I ran the other night though it was challenging it was rather boring. The signal boxes have also become boring with only 2 that I want to run that are in very high demand even on slow servers.

                          They need to develop the AI in order for it to work not only in MP but from what I understand single player. It is very early still so for now they have my money and I'll patiently wait and see what they come up with.

                          As for me personally I'm from North America and enjoy the random and varied freight operations it offers. This is why I took inspiration from SimRail as well as an idea I had last year and realized I could persue it. It makes a great first Unity project I plan on completing and is surprisingly a lot of fun to create. Having an artist in Scott who has plenty of time and creativity on his hands also keeps me on my feet to help get it all together. Right now he is waiting for me to catch up, and is resting his eyes which I don't blame him.

                          Railroader is a good one in early 2023 that I'm eagerly awaiting to get my hands on. I'm pretty confident Run8 and SimRail will continue to grow at whatever pace they grow at over time. I have both the current versions and will happily be back.

                          Thanks

                          Sean
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                          • jokel317
                            Member
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 123
                            • Indianapolis,Indiana

                            #253
                            I am confused what is considered the best train simulator for North America? Thanks.
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                            • SurvivorSean
                              2500 Post Veteran
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 3419
                              • St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.

                              #254
                              Run8
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                              • seagoon
                                5000 Post Veteran

                                • Jun 2001
                                • 5139
                                • Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia

                                #255
                                Originally posted by NorthernWarrior
                                ....... - could adding more variants split into shorter legs be sufficient solution for you?.....
                                No, it definitely could not be sufficient.

                                No save-game, no purchase.
                                IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

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