SimRail

[NorthernWarrior]

Sorry but I see no reason to cut a company charging £30 for a retail product too much slack. Once again we see the train sim Stockholm Syndrome at work. They are a business with a product, nothing more, nothing less. The lead up to release was hyped to hell then suddenly the product was downgraded to early access and once we saw through the lack of transparency it became obvious the single player game was and remains pretty much an afterthought.

Just to clarify, I don't dislike SimRail and I will be following it closely with the hope it eventually evolves into a game worth playing. But at present I get the vibe there is no real plan, the devs are firefighting previously unseen bugs while at the same time scrabbling round to get features working that should have been in there on Day 1.

[seagoon]

.... When was the last time you changed your mind?...

Just a few minutes ago, as a matter of fact, when I decided to respond to your jibe instead of my original decision to ignore it.

But then, you see I'm not attempting to run a business developing and selling computer entertainment, so my change of heart has no effect whatsoever on encouraging others to spend money on my product.

[haverfordwest]

Well, Mike - that's been highlighted by the fact that there was no mention of it in the minuscule "list" of SP updates (all two items) in amongst the three pages of stuff that Sean just posted.

Ooops! Sorry....I forgot that he's on your ignore list.
Well, there were several consecutive posts by Sean today in which he cut & pasted a list of updates as issued by the SimRail hierarchy.

Hahahahahahaha, so is SMRY. I see no reason at all to cut any software developer slack. They decided to go into business, they decided to charge money for their wares. That goes for any developer. Particularly in this hobby, where they expect to get away with any dubious practice they decide on. Plenty of people make free addons for the various train games. They get my undying gratitude, for anything and everything they make available. I do not particularly like the graphics in Open Rails. But those boys have done wonders, to drag the MSTS stuff out of the 1990's and enable them to be used in a superior game format. Oh and all for FREE.

Mike.

[SurvivorSean]

Kind of like dragging a dead horse? Perahps that is why you like it so much. Perhaps I should get the dust off my Commodore 64 (the monitor still works to this day) and see what I can drag out of the past, or drag dislike for a certain sim on and on

I've never had issue what the fine people of OR does. Not everything goes to plan especially with development and testing. Vast majority of people on that forum don't seem to care. If they want that market then they'll find the way, if not so be it.

BTW I could care less who's ignore lists I'm on, or who is on my list. As long as I'm not offended or attacked (which I'm not I'm amused) I'll still I think it perfectly healthy that peple are not happy with a product and obviously shoud post it here. Going on and on about it helps nobody decide.

Parting comment. Charity and volunteering has always been great especially when you can get tons of people. But there is a reason why socialism never works (despite the good intensions). The free market is there for a reason you either buy or you don't it's simple.
Anyways I'm not going to say anymore about what all that means, look it up.

Thanks

Sean

[SurvivorSean]

Just to try to steer this conversation into what is positive.

Looking at the sample size there are 552 Mostly Positive reviews on Steam. You could say that doesn't mean anything because TSW3 has Very Positive over 1400. But to that I would say that's fairly impressive on a franchise that has been around a long time and had a "chance" to improve. So the numbers itself doesn't mean anything but the ratio and the current rating (trust me there is so called EA trash that make it and get horrible ratings compared to this). That ratio despite a slightly less favorable review is telling.

Just like polls not everyone wants to share their opinion. Most people who already have done their homework may avoid both products. But considering the comparison between the two I think they're doing just fine. They are likely going to get weaker sales out of North America due to the unfamiliarity of what European trains are like or enjoyed.

Thanks

Sean

[haverfordwest]

Haven't played the game in nearly two weeks. Setting up loco in SP and the damn game crashed on me.

First you couldn't save it, now you can't even play it.

[BNSFfan]

I haven't been back here in years, come to read some news about the game and find that two old jokers just hijack the thread to take the piss between each other like direct messages.

Anyways, there is a lot of promise in the game, IMO.

[SurvivorSean]

Well I did have a crash tonight. My son reminded me that I actually had a crash before. Honestly it happens so few times that I hardly remember and it's not a big issue for me.

Tonight I'll d a live stream in SimRail for those that do appreciate the sim and I will show how much enjoyment you can get out of this sim. It will be in about 2 hours so that should be in the middle of a server reset cycle.

I don't agree with everyone's ideas. There are some servers that like to do role plaing and creating diversions like there is construction or something. I'm against that and a slight majority agree. I can see as a driver not being so kind to being delayed when trying to keep on schedule and purposely set at a speed of 20KMH due to a role play. Now if it just happens to get backed up in legitimate traffic, then it's perfectly good.

But most don't dispatch that way from what I can tell, and I will be dispatching tonight. Perhaps tomorrow night I'll take a run. There are PLENTY of servers available where hardly anyone is on. The servers now reset every 6 hours from what I understand. Plenty of time to have the same experience you would get in single player.

For an early access sim it is pretty damm good.

Thanks

Sean

[eric]

This thread seems to have run its course.

Feel free to continue the discussion in the Other Simulators thread. I may peel a couple of posts out to get that started.

If we have enough interest in terms of topics and participation, creating a dedicated forum for SimRail is not out of the question.