Brown CMA CGM containers

[ossie]

I've been seeing a few of these brown boxes lately with the CMA CGM logo and just wondered if anyone knows if they're new or maybe 2nd hand ones that they've bought and "re-branded".

[derekmorton]

https://www.google.com.au/search?ei=vwUMWrzDJNHo0gS1hZuYDQ&q=cma+cgm&oq=cma+cgm&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1l2j0l8.619076.621387.0.622527.7.7.0.0.0.0.444.1378.2-1j2j1.4.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..3.4.1376...0i67k1.0.WyK4GNKiIHg

[ossie]

Thanks Derek but do any of those links in particular answer my question about the when and why of the brown containers though?

[derekmorton]

If you don't want to do the work, I can't help any further.

[ossie]

Thanks for the links then and if anyone else knows the reason for the brown boxes appearing, fire away.

Edit. There are a few around my part of the world that apparently belong to a lease company (who have brown containers) and who have stencilled the CMA CGM logo on them in place of their regular lease logo. Is it possible the same is happening in the US?

[lateagain]

Thanks for the links then and if anyone else knows the reason for the brown boxes appearing, fire away.

Edit. There are a few around my part of the world that apparently belong to a lease company (who have brown containers) and who have stencilled the CMA CGM logo on them in place of their regular lease logo. Is it possible the same is happening in the US?

Who'd have guessed that containers have their own "décor" palette? ....and more colours than you can shake a stick at...

https://www.shippingcontainersuk.com/info/shipping_and_storage_container_ral_colour_chart.php

I guess the clue may be in "leasing"? If a company entered into a long term lease stencilling with their company logo would be worth while? Short term an unnecessary expense? Sadly the one guy I knew of in the train sim community here in the UK, who knew the most about containers, is no longer with us.

[ossie]

I guess I'd always been under the assumption (perhaps naively) that if a container says "China Shipping" or "Maersk", it's actually owned by those companies and tends to appear in their "corporate colours". After so many years of blue CMA CGM boxes, the brown really caught my eye and interest. Given Beacon, the leasing company here in Australia, have provided the brown version of the CMA CGM, maybe I'm now seeing the local version turning up in other parts of the world, or perhaps it's just a simple matter of there being many other container leasing companies doing the same as Beacon and it's a much more common practice than I realised.

[uli2]

Looks like the brown CMA CGM containers also turn up in the U.S.: http://www.matts-place.com/intermoda...eau4031162.jpg

[qballbandit]

I'm seeing them on a regular basis when out.

[ossie]

So they're either leasing the brown ones en masse, or they've just decided on a colour change for some reason. Whichever one applies, I prefer the old blue ones.

[ex-railwayman]

They have had various liveries over the decades, their reefers are all white.

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/The-Humble-Box/TheHumbleBox-Operator/Container-operators-C/CGMU-CMA-CGM/

I wondered if these North American boxes are different sizes, 45ft, 48ft, 53footers, etc, or, 9ft 6inches high, anything to tell the difference when they go around the world they have a different colour, so, shipping companies, cranemen and railway operatives all know the difference.

According to their website, they have been outfitting their containers with bamboo flooring, instead of the usual tree lined floors that we've had for the last 50 years, or, so, maybe they changed the livery to reflect that so workers could tell when loading ships, etc.

Cheerz. Steve.

[ossie]

Thanks Steve. There's a couple of interesting points you raise there about sizes and whether they have different implications for handling in various countries etc. FWIW, I think I've only seen the brown in 40ft so far but not sure on the height. I also don't think I've seen the "bamboo - eco" message on any of the brown ones that they were painting on their blue boxes, but whether that means the brown are second hand ones they've bought or leased or that they're either moving away from bamboo floors or just not bothering to advertise it now... I'm still guessing.