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    Hope Valley (trans-Pennines)

    Does anyone know if this "route" is represented in either OR or Train Simulator (the DTG version)?
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    #2
    TSC has it i believe Bruce, not long released by Just Trains.

    https://www.justtrains.net/product/m...lley-extension.

    Modern rubbish though buddy.

    Mike.
    Yma O Hyd

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      #3
      Thanks, Mike.
      It appears to be well crafted; I also found a lengthy video on YT.

      The reason I enquired is that I have just finished watching (over several nights) a video by Don Coffey of a 4-hour freight run down from Tunstead to Bedford, via Corby.
      Coffey has some excellent UK videos and this is one of them.
      I'm not concerned about "modern rubbish" as it means nothing to me. I'm interested in how well it depicts the line through Hope Valley.

      Last edited by seagoon; 10-07-2022, 03:37 PM.
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        #4
        I have watched all of Don Coffey's cabrides, excellent stuff.

        You are just not concerned, full stop buddy

        Not my area of knowledge. But in MSTS\OR there is a steam\diesel era route. The Midland Mainline, covers the whole route London St Pancras - Sheffield. I would have thought The Hope Valley may be included in that route.

        Worth a shot, it is freeware and very well done.

        Mike.
        Yma O Hyd

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          #5
          I just meant that because I know stuff-all about UK railways and the eras in which types of 'stock were operating it could all be "modern rubbish" to me!

          Mike, would you happen to know the exact name of that route file, please?
          Using the (limited) search engine here came up with a total zero for anything in the UK.
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            #6
            G'day Mike, The Midland Mainline is payware I have it including the farringdon extension, it could be available now as freeware but I doubt it.
            Regards
            Barrie

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              #7
              Originally posted by gremlin1812 View Post
              G'day Mike, The Midland Mainline is payware ...
              And it's available from........???
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                #8
                Midland Main Line is from Just Trains, Bruce. There have been several extensions of the base line Sheffield to Derby, going in all directions, the Hope Valley Line is considered quite authentic for modern day, but, you do need to have purchased the Sheffield - Derby Payware route beforehand, so, it could be a little expensive overall, especially, if you want to add on all the other extended lines that have been completed and available, nearly £100s worth at the moment if you obtain them all.

                Just to clarify please, if I may. In your original post you asked about the trans-pennine route. Were you referring to the Huddersfield to Manchester via Leeds route that features in TSW? There is a freeware offering for TSC/TS2022, created by a chap called Pennine Pacer, that features trams as well as trains available from Manchester Victoria to Huddersfield (but, it doesn't go to Leeds yet) it's in the UKTS library, you need to have both v1 and v2 downloaded - https://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-s...r=PenninePacer
                Of course, you do need a couple of DLC routes off Steam to get this freebie route to work properly, it depends if you have everything.

                Cheerz. Steve.
                Last edited by ex-railwayman; 10-08-2022, 04:30 AM. Reason: re-edit
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ex-railwayman View Post
                  Midland Main Line is from Just Trains, Bruce.
                  Thanks for that, Steve.
                  Yep...I checked out their site and it appears that the Hope Valley is going to be released separately, not requiring the Midland line to be installed.

                  Originally posted by ex-railwayman View Post
                  In your original post you asked about the trans-pennine route. ...
                  I probably mixed up terminology, Steve.
                  It's the Hope Valley that I am interested in and I think the "trans-Pennine" reference came in because that was mentioned in Coffey's video.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by seagoon View Post
                    I just meant that because I know stuff-all about UK railways and the eras in which types of 'stock were operating it could all be "modern rubbish" to me!

                    Mike, would you happen to know the exact name of that route file, please?
                    Using the (limited) search engine here came up with a total zero for anything in the UK.
                    Joshing Bruce, just joshing amigo

                    Not on ts.com Bruce as far as i know sorry.



                    Mike.
                    Yma O Hyd

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                      #11
                      No Barrie, the freeware MSTS\OR Thames - Trent route, which is the Midland Mainline.

                      Very well done and has extensive track work.

                      Mike.
                      Yma O Hyd

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                        #12
                        Not sure how much it helps, but Train Sim World 2 and 3 has the Northern Trans-Pennine which runs between Manchester Victoria and Leeds. Available on both PC via Xbox Game Pass, as well as the Xbox itself. Not sure if it's available on steam.

                        A few screen shots of the Leeds area.





                        -Shawn K-
                        Northern Maine Productions

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                          #13
                          Thank you, Shawn.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by haverfordwest View Post
                            Joshing Bruce, just joshing amigo

                            Not on ts.com Bruce as far as i know sorry.



                            Mike.
                            Yeah....I know you were pulling my leg, Mike.

                            I'll give the download a miss, I think: it's currently telling me (a non-premium member) that it'll take 12 hours!
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                              #15
                              TSC is also getting its own version of the NTP in the next few days, though they are calling it the "Huddersfield Line". Unlike the TSW version set in a slightly more recent era with Class 142 and 158 DMU's although still has Class 47 loco hauled and the 03 and 08 shunters. Sounds like quite an interesting pack but it will depend on price as, unlike the TSW version which comes with the all day timetable, this is only going to have seven scenarios - the biggest pitfall of TSC.

                              As regards the JT Hope Valley, well if it needs another route for dependencies forget it - they shouldn't be doing that. Already caught up with that with their Metropolitan Line add on where to get fully functional trains, the S7+1 stock had to be purchased on top of the route. If it ever turns up on Steam and both it and its partner route can be picked up in a sale then I might get it.
                              Vern.

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