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    #16
    I can understand removing duplicates and out of date files. And I fully agree with dumping the Indian content. But I don't get removing historic artifacts like the NEC 4?

    Speaking of big routes, the UP Cima is one I want to try out. But even in split form I don't have any luck downloading it on my ISP provider. It's just too much route.

    I'm going to be downloading like a crazy person trying to back up anything I might forsee wanting to play with in the future. Might have to get a membership to make the bigger downloads.

    Robert

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      #17
      If the NEC standalone is that important I'll retain it. As you said, it's not huge compared to others.
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        #18
        There are two versions of my Hook & Eye route but they are not the same. The older version is fully MSTS and
        ORTS compatible while the later version has more detail and uses some special track items that may not be
        fully MSTS compatible. Be sure the keep the last version of Don Karch's Colorado Mega route which I completed
        in I believe 2019 after Don passed away. It includes earlier versions which can be dropped. I was told by another
        user that my Blue Ridge route was to be dropped. Please keep the Blue Ridge and Kingsport routes of CSX. I do
        plan to release updated versions and when I do I will send a message to the site manager that THEN those older
        routes can be dropped although activities created for them may or may not work on a new version. Having been
        manager of CADD systems in the CSX Engineering department I know that storage space is precious - especially
        in the 1990s when 500MBT discs were consider HUGE, so I always have asked to delete earlier versions when I
        uploaded a route if that was possible.

        J. H. Sullivan, P.E.
        (aka landnrailroader)

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          #19
          I did a search for most of my contributed routes and found several marked for removal.

          Rocky Mountain Div. East (Milwaukee Road) it appears that all versions & updates are to be cut, Please keep these.
          Idaho Division or "GAP". Please do not remove.
          Kingsport Sub. (CSX) Please do not remove.
          Blue Ridge Sub. (CSX) Please do not remove.

          The two CSX subdivisions are in the mix for being redone completely but hey guys, I am 84 so somebody else
          might have that desire.

          Where several versions of a route exist, be sure to retain the latest version.

          J. H. Sullivan, P.E.
          (aka landnrailroader)

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            #20
            I second keeping all of the Milwaukee Road routes.

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              #21
              Rocky Mountain Div. East (Milwaukee Road) it appears that all versions & updates are to be cut, Please keep these.
              Jerry, I've moved everything you worked on back into the active MSTS category, but admittedly there does appear to be a bunch of duplication and overlap here that perhaps you can comment on.


              1. RMD 1st Div (2007) was listed for removal (presumed replaced by RMD East in 2010) and has been moved back into the safe zone.
              2. RMD 2nd Div (2004) is not listed for removal
              3. RMD 3rd Div (2009) is not listed for removal
              4. RMD 4th Div (2005) is not listed for removal
              5. Wallace Branch (2004) is not listed for removal

              6. RMD West (2016) Parts 1-4 is not listed for removal
              7. RMD East (2010) Parts 1-6 is not listed for removal
              8. Idaho Div (2020) Parts 1-9 is not listed for removal
              9. Idaho Div (2014) was flagged for removal. It is back in the safe zone.
              10. Coast Div (2016) Parts 1-6 is not listed for removal

              11. Black Canyon V1 (3-14-2016) is not listed for removal.
              12. Black Canyon V2 (3-20-2016) is not listed for removal. I'd think that V1 could be safely removed.

              13. Hook and Eye V1 (2008) was tagged for removal. It's back in the safe zone.
              14. Hook and Eye v2 (2015)is not listed for removal

              15. CSX Kingsport (2005) Parts 1-5 are not being removed

              16. CSX Blue Ridge Sub: (9-9-2002) is flagged for removal. It's back in the safe zone.
              17. CSX Blue Ridge Sub: (9-13-2002) with signal improvements by Claude Debnam.
              Last edited by eric; 03-04-2023, 08:11 PM.
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                #22
                Let's keep estarcab_v3.zip

                This is one of the better cabview files for the Eurostar trains.

                Also I'd like to ask for the CSX M&M and Western Atlantic routes to be saved.

                Thanks.

                Robert

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                  #23
                  The cabview is safe. Both the M&M and WA fall into versioning a year apart.

                  CSX Western Atlantic has a v2.3 (2009) and a v2.0 (2008). The 2009 update was done by Kevin Howell with Jerry Conway's blessing.

                  CSX Meridian and Mobile has a 2005 version that added the PA/PD Subs, and the original from 2004, both by Terry Dickerson.

                  Shouldn't the 2005 M&M and the 2009 WA be sufficient?

                  We've seen a lot of routes issued just to be expanded a year later. I can see it if they're separate works a year or two apart, but these are clear derivatives of the earlier version.
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                    #24
                    Please Keep 2 Versions Of Southern Railways by Me. (Karthik Iyer)
                    SRv2 - Phase 4 Beta Version.
                    SRv1 (Southern Railways V1)

                    * There is NO Version of SRv1.
                    *** you can delete Version/Phase of SRv2 Namely Phase 1, Phase 2, Phase3.
                    Karthik Iyer
                    IRTS FAN
                    MSTS-Indian Railways Player
                    Check IRTS FAN on YouTube.
                    https://irtsfan.weebly.com/
                    http://srv2.weebly.com/

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                      #25
                      There are some routes which need to be unlisted and kept in the Library from "Removal Candidates - Routes" as I know these routes and their owners very well and don't have any previous or new versions.

                      ir_swr.zip

                      western_railways_v5.zip

                      003-irmsts_guide-ii_part-3.zip

                      surupdate3.zip
                      surupdate2.zip
                      surupdate1.zip

                      mumbai2011_d.zip
                      mumbai2011_b.zip
                      mumbai2011_c.zip
                      mumbai2011_a.zip

                      braghanzaghat.zip [Different Owner

                      konkan.zip

                      pune-sholapur-1.zip
                      pune-sholapur-2.zip
                      pune-sholapur-3.zip
                      pune-sholapur-4.zip

                      mumbaiupdate.zip

                      indrail5.zip
                      indrail4.zip
                      indrail3.zip
                      indrail2.zip
                      indrail.zip

                      dhulghat.zip

                      mumpunea.zip
                      mumpuneb.zip

                      sholapur.zip

                      bragzt1.zip [Different Owner]

                      ncrv1_a.zip
                      Karthik Iyer
                      IRTS FAN
                      MSTS-Indian Railways Player
                      Check IRTS FAN on YouTube.
                      https://irtsfan.weebly.com/
                      http://srv2.weebly.com/

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                        #26
                        Thanks, Karthik.
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                          #27
                          You can remove these items:
                          RMD 1st Div (2007)
                          RMD 2nd Div (2004)
                          RMD 3rd Div (2009)
                          RMD 4th Div (2005)

                          These were replaced when Lukas Lussar combined the 1st & 2nd divisions to make the RMD-EAST and when
                          he combined the 3rd & 4th divisions to make the RMD-WEST.

                          The Wallace Branch (wallace.zip) can be removed. It was later included in the RMD 4th Div. which then became
                          part of the RMD-West itself.

                          Black Canyon, both versions, can be removed. This was a piece of a route I did for Don Karch so
                          he could do the Gunnison to Montrose line, so it is now part of the Colorado Mega Route.

                          The 2008 version of the Hook & Eye is fullly MSTS compatible while the 2015 version runs much
                          better on ORTS. Both versions should be kept - I didn't do the 2015 version.

                          Blue Ridge Sub. 9-9-2002 version can be removed. Keep the 9-13-2002. It is the same as the
                          9-9-2002 version except signals are better.

                          Kingsport Sub. should be kept.

                          As I create new routes, and if a route is a workover of some previous route I will make this known
                          when I upload it so that the site manager can keep disc usage in check. For example I have a route
                          in the library now that should be superceded later this year and if so, at that time I will recommend
                          removal of the earlier version. In that case the new version will be identical in part to the older
                          version but will have more main and branches added so it will be about twice the size of the earlier
                          version. In a case like that it makes no sense to keep an old route.

                          I checked and the two Idaho Division route sets are not the same. The later version is ORTS only
                          but needs more completed scenery. That is not my route. The earlier one is mine and will work
                          on either MSTS or ORTS. Both versions should be kept.

                          J. H. Sullivan, P.E. (retired)
                          Last edited by landnrailroader; 03-06-2023, 02:46 PM.

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                            #28
                            Thanks, Jerry.


                            For those who noticed, the downloads were broken for a couple hours this morning -- that's been resolved.
                            If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, items saved in our library or the ongoing development of our TSRE Fork, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                              #29
                              Eolesen,

                              There is a file in the library that refers to the Black Canyon being added to Don Karch route in 2017. That one was superceded by the 2019 version of the Colorado Mega Route that I completed after Don passed away. You can delete the 2017 file. There are two files that refer to a seperate version of the Black Canyon, but since the Mega Route has been completed those are redundant too and can be dropped.

                              J. H. Sullivan

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by landnrailroader View Post
                                You can remove these items:
                                RMD 1st Div (2007)
                                RMD 2nd Div (2004)
                                RMD 3rd Div (2009)
                                RMD 4th Div (2005)

                                These were replaced when Lukas Lussar combined the 1st & 2nd divisions to make the RMD-EAST and when
                                he combined the 3rd & 4th divisions to make the RMD-WEST.

                                The Wallace Branch (wallace.zip) can be removed. It was later included in the RMD 4th Div. which then became
                                part of the RMD-West itself.

                                Black Canyon, both versions, can be removed. This was a piece of a route I did for Don Karch so
                                he could do the Gunnison to Montrose line, so it is now part of the Colorado Mega Route.

                                The 2008 version of the Hook & Eye is fullly MSTS compatible while the 2015 version runs much
                                better on ORTS. Both versions should be kept - I didn't do the 2015 version.

                                Blue Ridge Sub. 9-9-2002 version can be removed. Keep the 9-13-2002. It is the same as the
                                9-9-2002 version except signals are better.

                                Kingsport Sub. should be kept.

                                As I create new routes, and if a route is a workover of some previous route I will make this known
                                when I upload it so that the site manager can keep disc usage in check. For example I have a route
                                in the library now that should be superceded later this year and if so, at that time I will recommend
                                removal of the earlier version. In that case the new version will be identical in part to the older
                                version but will have more main and branches added so it will be about twice the size of the earlier
                                version. In a case like that it makes no sense to keep an old route.

                                I checked and the two Idaho Division route sets are not the same. The later version is ORTS only
                                but needs more completed scenery. That is not my route. The earlier one is mine and will work
                                on either MSTS or ORTS. Both versions should be kept.

                                J. H. Sullivan, P.E. (retired)
                                Very useful information, thank you.
                                Best regards.
                                Mateus

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