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    #16
    Originally posted by RoadMaster259 View Post
    My understanding is that the Elk Valley Coal mines load the coal to about 125 to 130 tons gross weight. Since the aluminum coal gondolas are larger and lighter than the old style steel ones, they can pack a bigger payload. But I do believe that 130t gross is the limit.

    IMHO, I prefer to see the MSTS models a bit lighter when loaded so the dynamic brakes on the power units aren't overburdened when coming down a mountain grade. A prototypical consist has 3 locos and around 112 wagons. One loco in the lead, one in the middle and one at the rear. I run a prototypical consist of 3 locos and 111 wagons, plus "fred." Simple math shows that 30t overweight per wagon, times 111 wagons, is a lot of extra weight. 3330 tons is the same as having an extra 25 wagons (properly loaded to 130t) in the consist. If the wagon models are too heavy it is necessary (in a prototypical model consist) to have the dynamic brakes on full and still have to dump some air in order to avoid a runaway on a downhill mountain grade such as Rogers Pass (west side, after leaving the tunnel). Although I am not skilled in wag file editing, I'd like to see the wagons somewhat lighter. Is there a simple way to do this?
    I thought they ran the aluminum sets at 124-130 cars and the steel sets at about 115 cars. Did this change?

    As for editing the cars, you need to open the desired .wag file and find the 'mass' parameter (right near the top). MSTS uses the metric system so to get 130 short tons you will have to convert it. Make sure you don't create any syntax errors.
    Last edited by TrainMan_112; 05-31-2010, 23:09.

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      #17
      Yes, I worked with Jason for the sounds.

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        #18
        Ah okay that is why you are so concerned about the sounds.

        Well.. I want to chime in and say that they are nice, but they seem a bit quite.

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          #19
          Yeah.. There's many things I would have liked to change before release.

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            #20
            Yea I just went and aliased them to the ones you uploaded here in the file library. For now, until there is an update, if there is one

            Should I also, hold off on my renumbers?
            Last edited by PORU333; 05-31-2010, 20:56.

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              #21
              141 tons? That seems accurate. Remember, a fully loaded 100-Ton Hopper Car doesn't weight 100 Tons. The 100 tons means the capacity, not the car weight with the load. So If the car weighs 141 tons, probably about 115 Tons of Coal and maybe 26 Tons of car? I don't know much about the Aluminum cars and their weights but maybe some of you may know. And even 158 Tons isn't way too heavy. Remember, some hoppers are 150 Ton capacity hoppers.
              Southern Pacific Transportation Company

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                #22
                The one thing I find wrong is the outside horn is messed up. You can't hear the air from the button outside the cab in real life, however you can in this sound set.
                --BNSF Conductor--

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                  #23
                  I've found that it varies unit to unit. Sometimes you can hear the air pressure behind the solenoid make a "pop" before the horn starts blowing. It depends usually on the age and sometimes the connections between the Solenoid and horn aren't very tight. I dunno, if you want, I can include an alternate horn for you via Email.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by nat View Post
                    141 tons? That seems accurate. Remember, a fully loaded 100-Ton Hopper Car doesn't weight 100 Tons. The 100 tons means the capacity, not the car weight with the load. So If the car weighs 141 tons, probably about 115 Tons of Coal and maybe 26 Tons of car? I don't know much about the Aluminum cars and their weights but maybe some of you may know. And even 158 Tons isn't way too heavy. Remember, some hoppers are 150 Ton capacity hoppers.
                    Yes, for these cars, 158 tons is way too heavy. I found the load limit on one of my photos of a similar car used by CP (just a bit older) and they should weigh around 134 tons maxed out.

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                      #25
                      omg that awsome. are you also making SLI verson of the kicking horse pass? cause thouse area look same like that the canadian divide i vould be wrong.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by trainrcool View Post
                        omg that awsome. are you also making SLI verson of the kicking horse pass? cause thouse area look same like that the canadian divide i vould be wrong.
                        um..what?

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                          #27
                          i just got this pack and it amazing. is there SLI verson of kicking horse pass in the works? cause from thouse shots on there site it look like the canadian continental divide area.

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                            #28
                            there SLI verson of kicking horse pass in the works? cause from thouse shots on there site it look like the canadian continental divide area.

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                              #29
                              I think that is just a upgraded version of Kicking Horse Pass. I don't believe that is a fresh new route or "their" version, as technically the folks of SLI where once the folks of MLT.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by CSX4878 View Post
                                Yea I just went and aliased them to the ones you uploaded here in the file library. For now, until there is an update, if there is one

                                Should I also, hold off on my renumbers?
                                NO! Make as many as possible
                                Never shoot 'em 'til you hear the metal crunch.

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