BNSF Seligman Route 2.0

[Curt C]

I thought I was (somewhat) clear on this, but after reading recent posts, I'm not so sure. Has the updated version of Seligman 2, which came out 4-5 weeks ago, now been updated yet again? I purchased Seligman 2 when it was first released, and now am only hoping to get the new engines and rollingstock.

[geepster775]

Its been upgraded into a BNSF version of the route, and sits on your computer as a separate route to the ATSF version.

The $35 full price version is really for those who haven't already bought the ATSF version of Seligman 2.

Any future stock-only pack (that doesn't exist yet) would be mostly for those who haven't bought either version of Seligman 2. They would want the stock without the download clutter of any route tiles.

But if you already own the ATSF version of the route, you can get the stock with the $25 upgrade, and as a plus, get the BNSF version of the route essentially for free.

Unless any future Seligman stock-only pack is sold for a cheaper price, I don't see why anyone who owns the ATSF version of Seligman 2 would want to opt for a $25 stock-only pack. For the same $25 price, the upgrade that exists now gives you the same stock and the second copy of the route as essentially a freebie.

That's the way I see it.

[Kristian]

how can you have an old product now, ATSF Seligman 2 which you have is a route set in the 1990s with CTC and ABS and is the most up to date version of it.

If I'd known about the update I would have bought the up-to-date BNSF version, I suppose/hope the quality of the scenery etc. is at least similar. I plan to buy the Scenic subdivision as well later on.

[akajim]

Anyone have a listing of the engine numbers. Are they all new or from previous versions?
Ron K of Rockford

[Curt C]

Its been upgraded into a BNSF version of the route, and sits on your computer as a separate route to the ATSF version.

The $35 full price version is really for those who haven't already bought the ATSF version of Seligman 2.

Any future stock-only pack (that doesn't exist yet) would be mostly for those who haven't bought either version of Seligman 2. They would want the stock without the download clutter of any route tiles.

But if you already own the ATSF version of the route, you can get the stock with the $25 upgrade, and as a plus, get the BNSF version of the route essentially for free.

Unless any future Seligman stock-only pack is sold for a cheaper price, I don't see why anyone who owns the ATSF version of Seligman 2 would want to opt for a $25 stock-only pack. For the same $25 price, the upgrade that exists now gives you the same stock and the second copy of the route as essentially a freebie.

That's the way I see it.

Thanks for the explanation. That's what I wasn't clear on, whether it was just stock/engines or included a route upgrade. Guess I wasn't the only one, based on the number of questions. As an earlier poster indicated, SLI's description is somewhat vague.

[tarrant75]

The only previously released number was GP60 8722, which was omitted from the re-released ATSF GP60 pack. Other than that they are all new numbers.

[pinpuller]

Now once again, just to be clear and certain, If I have the Seligman 2 ATSF version and buy the $25 BNSF upgrade I will then have two routes, ATSF & BNSF? Or does it over-write the ATSF?

Thanks.

[defect_detector]

Now once again, just to be clear and certain, If I have the Seligman 2 ATSF version and buy the $25 BNSF upgrade I will then have two routes, ATSF & BNSF? Or does it over-write the ATSF?

Thanks.

Yes, if you have the ATSF Seligman 2, you only need to purchase the upgrade and the installer will create a separate directory for the BNSF Seligman version. Both routes can be present in the route folder without any complications.

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[pinpuller]

Thanks for the clarification, I will get the upgrade.

[cbff33]

Just got the upgrade. I like it.

[poochwilly]

Got the upgrade package few days ago, nice stuff, works and looks okay, just a couple problems with 2 activities.SLI_bad day for trains 1 and 2, load up then freeze, any suggestions, and yes all is set correctly for windows 7 home 64 bit.

Thanks poochwilly

[deagle]

Are you saying that the route itself was not really upgraded (track/scenery etc.)? Was it only a BNSF stock upgrade? Oh well, I guess I will wait for further clarification from those that purchase the upgraded route.

[brissim]

Got the upgrade package few days ago, nice stuff, works and looks okay, just a couple problems with 2 activities.SLI_bad day for trains 1 and 2, load up then freeze, any suggestions, and yes all is set correctly for windows 7 home 64 bit.

Thanks poochwilly

I'm having problems with all three activities I've tried to date.

With Harvest Heavyweight the overtaking manuvere at Peach Springs goes off with no problems, but then the train that overtakes yours gets stopped at the next absolute Stop. So far I've waited 15-20 minutes with nothing happening and my train closed up to the AI train. Maybe I've got to wait longer.

With Headin' to Phoenix, all goes well until I'm just west of the Navajo sidings and the compter just freezes.

And as noted by poochwilly, A bad Day for trains just freezes at the opening screen.

I'm also running W7 64bit. Even though I have the ATSF Seligman Route, I opted for the full version of this BNSF Seligman because I wanted a stand-alone route. Whether this is significant I don't know.

Tony

[deagle]

Thanks for the activity information. Is there any difference in the route itself?

[brissim]

And I've just remembered that Steamlines have their own forums. Quickly checked, and yes it appears there are quite a few people having problems running the activities mentioned - although not exactly the problems I encountered. Comments from that forum indicate a possible solution is running under Open Rails. Not sure this is a proper solution. Not a good sign and not impressed.

Tony