MSTS stopped running after installing activities

[Beddhist]

Hi All,

MSTS ran just fine on my Win7-64 laptop. I only use it for the activity editor, otherwise I use OR.

I installed the activities included with Marias Pass 3.1 and I also installed these into Marias Pass 5 (by renaming the route folders and the IDs in the .trk files, as per the instructions with MP3.1.

As far as the activities work (some seem to have bugs...) OR runs them just fine in both routes. However, when I tried to fix an activity I now find that both MSTS as well as the activity editor refuse to start. I get a windows dialog telling me that it has stopped working and I can either check online for a solution or close the program. Problem details:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
  Application Name:	train.exe
  Application Version:	1.16.5.912
  Application Timestamp:	3c1625d7
  Fault Module Name:	train.exe
  Fault Module Version:	1.16.5.912
  Fault Module Timestamp:	3c1625d7
  Exception Code:	c0000005
  Exception Offset:	002676eb
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:	5129
  Additional Information 1:	db86
  Additional Information 2:	db86b166907770376374dc76f8714b6d
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  Additional Information 4:	f2f06fb19d7cb9979b836dbd3811026b

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I ran Route_Riter and it fixed a bunch of sound errors. I also corrected some missing locos. It still won't start.
I also disabled both MP routes in Route_Riter, but that just made the crash happen a lot quicker.

What else can I do to diagnose this?

Thanks,
Peter.

[ckawahara]

The likely culprit was your renaming. OR and MSTS do not respond to all errors in the same way. You may want to check the OR log to see what it says errors are. You may also restore what you changed back to their original states to see if MSTS runs again.

[Beddhist]

Thanks for your comment. I did change all the renaming back. This was only temporary to make the apks install into MP5. I have double-checked and the two files and folders look the way they should.

I noticed that the tracks are significantly different between MP3.1 and MP5 and I have manually cleaned up some paths. There are still many more to do. I wonder whether MSTS reads in all the paths at startup and now chokes on the invalid track nodes in them.

I guess the next step will be to move the 2 routes folders somewhere else and see whether it runs?

Regards,
Peter.

[Beddhist]

Ok, removing the two route folders didn't work, either. There is something more fundamental wrong here. I'm continuing to drive MP5 in ORTS. OR does throw a whole heap of error msgs, but then, it always does.

[ckawahara]

Please read the pinned topic about asking for help. What route? What error messages? What did you do or change? Was MSTS working prior to whatever you did? What is your pc structure/specs. What does the OR log file show as detected errors?

[Beddhist]

My PC is a Gateway laptop, NV75S25u, AMD A6-3420M, AMD Radeon HD 6520G with 512 MB. RAM is 4GB and MSTS is started with 1024 MB in windowed mode.

OR log is attached. I think I have answered the other questions in my first post.

Thanks for your time,
Peter.

[ckawahara]

My PC is a Gateway laptop, NV75S25u, AMD A6-3420M, AMD Radeon HD 6520G with 512 MB. RAM is 4GB and MSTS is started with 1024 MB in windowed mode.

OR log is attached. I think I have answered the other questions in my first post.

Thanks for your time,
Peter.

Sorry Peter...my reply was directed at Surflinerkid2012.

[derekmorton]

Me to having issues with marias 5 my error is 1.0.1.3095 open rails.

start your own thread and put it in the correct forum.

[Beddhist]

I could really use some help, please. Without MSTS there is no activity editor, as OR doesn't have one yet.

Thanks for your time,
Peter.

[R. Steele]

I could really use some help, please. Without MSTS there is no activity editor, as OR doesn't have one yet.

Thanks for your time,
Peter.

Hi Peter, Gerry here.. coming to the thread late...
I looked at your OR log and saw all the errors....my log for MP5 has the same exact errors. The route opens and activities run fine in OR.

I just opened the route in MSTS and it loaded and an activity ran >>> Dawn Oil Train (re-worked the original MP act for MP5)
Also the MSTS AE opens and runs fine.

I cannot find the essex extra east.act indicated by your OR log...perhaps if I loaded that and tried to open it in MSTS the problem would present itself.

Are you getting any messages when you try to run MSTS or the MSTS AE ...like cons, textures, or other files missing?

edit... a final thought... have you put the other routes that are in the ROUTES folder with MP5 into a ROUTES\HOLD folder...to get them out of the way and then tried to open MSTS or the AE?

[Beddhist]

Thanks for your reply, Gerry. I think you misunderstand my problem: MSTS will not start. At most I get the first screen with the progress bar, but most of the time all I get is a black window and then the Application Error. I have tried playing with compatibility options, but no joy.

It used to run fine (more or less, crashed easily). I only need the AE. I use OR to run trains and its TrackViewer to edit paths. I have started converting all the MP 3.1 acts to MP 5 and I need to edit some loose consists, as they sometimes park on switches, or are missing due to changed siding names.

Regards,
Peter.

[Beddhist]

I can report success: I installed TrainStore and after storing some routes I can now run MSTS and the AE. Perhaps I just had too many files of some sort.

Now I'm left with 90 errors of this type in TS:

Warning: - Item No. 1
The definition of the locomotive in the Consist file is different to the specification in the Engine parameter in the locomotive file
(They should be identical)
This will stop the Consist from appearing in the MSTS Explore selection list
Consist  "File: '2 Dash9+SD 25 mixed Intermodal.con'
Engine  "File: 'Dash9\Dash9.ENG

TS is correct: it does prevent me from using these consists in MSTS, but OR will happily use them. My guess is incorrect capitalisation in file names. RouteRiter doesn't show these errors.

Regards,
Peter.

[R. Steele]

Storing some of the routes...that's why I suggested that approach (see edit line in post #10). Good that you found the problem.
Also, ConBuilder will identify the incorrect syntax in the engine files and wag files.