SLI UP pack for Feather River.

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  • geepster775
    2500 Post Veteran
    • Sep 2006
    • 2648
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    • General

    #16
    Very few redundancies in this pack. And I agree that SD40 will work for lots of repaints. Add a plow and a cab signal box and it will work for Conrail. Also for a PLM leaser.

    What stuck out to me was the generator flat being out of the intended era. According to Casdorph's New Build Tables, those QTTX cars were built by Difco in 1991-1999. But it works well for the widecab era for sure. Those are the same flats that they hauled the NASA rocket boosters on, so maybe a rocket booster train is a possibility for the more modern stock for Sherman Hill.

    I wish there would have been some UPS yellow post or red post drop frame parcel trailers. They were right for that 80's era. Maybe include them in a WP power pack for Feather River.

    Last edited by geepster775; 07-30-2015, 17:47.
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    • Curt C
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2001
      • 1020
      • UP's dead Santa Barbara Sub

      #17
      Any shots of the rollingstock would be appreciated (unless they're all shown on the site). Have to admit, the trucks on the flat cars look pretty nice.

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      • TrainSimulations
        Member
        • Nov 1999
        • 82
        • .

        #18
        I had thought of those UPS trailers, but forgot to implement them. Maybe I can make a flat or two with them and add them in. I was equally interested in including some drop frame trailers, also common in the 70's and 80's, such as the one in the photo link below:



        I'm referring to the drop frame Santa Fe trailer on the right. Does anyone know anything about them, such as who used them, aside from the Santa Fe, and for what purpose?

        Thanks,
        Jason@SLI

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        • CSX FAN
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 307
          • North Carolina

          #19
          I just purchased this set and I'm truly amazed. Yeah some duplicates but, hey, change a number here or there and viola. But, could there be some empty TOFC flats? I know they ran baretables back then like they do now. Just a suggestion.

          CSX FAN

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          • qballbandit
            5000 Post Veteran
            • Jan 2006
            • 6386
            • Elgin Il., USA.
            • MSOR

            #20
            Yes Curt, the flats with the truck cabs is something I also would like in my freight collection.
            Neil

            Chicago Railroading Fan

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            • R. Steele
              Moderator

              • Feb 2013
              • 3922
              • known universe
              • ORTS

              #21
              May I add something I have been wondering about SLI since I began purchasing their models/route - which I like.

              What is preventing them from making working fans on the engines? Are they allergic to fan animations for pete's sake. That is my only real complaint about them...most every other payware firm has working fans on many models.

              Does anyone know why they do this...
              Cheers, Gerry
              "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
              It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
              Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
              Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace

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              • kknobl
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 498

                #22
                Originally posted by R. Steele
                May I add something I have been wondering about SLI since I began purchasing their models/route - which I like.

                What is preventing them from making working fans on the engines? Are they allergic to fan animations for pete's sake. That is my only real complaint about them...most every other payware firm has working fans on many models.

                Does anyone know why they do this...
                Also add in lighted numberboards and MU receptacles on the B-ends of their locomotives...

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                • WynterLee
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 593
                  • Burlington, Vermont

                  #23
                  My thoughts;

                  Open autoracks: Cool! We needed those. I'll probably buy the pack just for those and the SD40 with dynamics.

                  Repaints and renumbers of already existing models: What? Okay cool, but I could've done that myself, making the pack worth way less than $25. Try $10 or $15.

                  Now before anyone here goes off on me with the "Well don't buy it!" Or "No one is making you buy it." let me get a point across...

                  Streamlines is TOTALLY within their right to release whatever they want. But Jay, the guy behind what gets released, doesn't have much of a clue about what the community wants. Even though he has SD60Es, a big SP pack, more SD45s, B30-7s, and an NPCU pack among many other things, he won't release them. Instead we get these re-skins of stuff we already have. Maybe he's trying to get the most bang for his buck? I dunno! Not my business. But for the love of God... There is SO much other stuff that is dearly needed for Open Rails. SD35s, GP40s, GP40-2s, GP39s, GP39-2s, SD38s, SD39s, GP49s, GP50s, GP38s, GP38-2s, etc... etc... I could go on for a long time about what various models need to be either made or upgraded to modern standards that I and many others would love to see.

                  Just my two cents...
                  Maxwell Brisben
                  President of Northern Vermont Locomotive Works
                  Working Visual Artist
                  BLW Productions/Zosa Trains Texture Artist
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                  • ossie
                    Senior Member


                    • May 2010
                    • 889
                    • Melbourne
                    • MSOR

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WynterLee
                    ...a big SP pack...
                    My credit card is ready.
                    Cheers!
                    Pete

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                    • WynterLee
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 593
                      • Burlington, Vermont

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ossie
                      My credit card is ready.
                      With the way things are going, we won't see it for years, unless a certain someone figures out how to tighten a few loose screws.
                      Maxwell Brisben
                      President of Northern Vermont Locomotive Works
                      Working Visual Artist
                      BLW Productions/Zosa Trains Texture Artist
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                      • R. Steele
                        Moderator

                        • Feb 2013
                        • 3922
                        • known universe
                        • ORTS

                        #26
                        SLI We are starting a list of improvements for your consideration:

                        1. Lighted Numberboards
                        2. MU Receptacles on the B-ends of locomotives
                        3. Working Fans
                        4. Animated Wipers (edit to add)

                        Any more requests??
                        Last edited by R. Steele; 07-30-2015, 23:17.
                        Cheers, Gerry
                        "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                        It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                        Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                        Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace

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                        • SantaFe801
                          Member


                          • Jan 2015
                          • 186
                          • General

                          #27
                          Originally posted by R. Steele
                          SLI We are starting a list of improvements for your consideration:

                          1. Lighted Numberboards
                          2. MU Receptacles on the B-ends of locomotives
                          3. Working Fans

                          Any more requests??
                          Animated wipers? I've longed to have that for some time.

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                          • groeg
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 3

                            #28
                            Sometimes it is really hard to understand the bashing done here. Though there are released items in this set it is full of new and excellent cars well worth the money. Remember this set comes with activities and known stock is used to add variety to consists. Please don’t jugde after seeing five or sio pictures.
                            The only glitch I found up to now is the box behind the conductors side of the cab using the long hood sides texture map resulting in a bright gap between the box and hood where you would expect dark shadows. It would be nice if this could be fixed.
                            I think we should respect what vendors decide to release and not. You never know what else they are working on or planning for the future. Would they come up with a new route they would be bashed for releasing it witch stock seen in train-packs before.
                            Please consider there are people in all vendors working hard trying to earn a part of their living by producing add-ons. If you appreciate their work buy it and support them. This does not mean you have to praise everything all the time -we had that before and it led nowhere- but be fair.
                            Cheers groeG
                            Only mom will always do exactly what you want - other grown-ups are very unlikely to do so.

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                            • MsSheare
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1586
                              • Brough UK

                              #29
                              Originally posted by R. Steele
                              SLI We are starting a list of improvements for your consideration:

                              1. Lighted Numberboards
                              2. MU Receptacles on the B-ends of locomotives
                              3. Working Fans
                              4. Animated Wipers (edit to add)

                              Any more requests??
                              Add in there U boats if they can do such a amazing job on EMD and later GE can you imagine what some U Boats would look like? As much as i like DW I love SLI repaint policy

                              I would really like to see some C&O, B&O, D&H, NW, PC, Pennsy, NYC U Boats I think the west has been well covered.

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                              • lateagain
                                2500 Post Veteran
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 2727
                                • Wareham, Dorset, U.K.

                                #30
                                Hi Max, Hi Gerry

                                I know your points are made as users and modifiers of SLI's stuff so I take your points are constructive criticism. I buy a good bit of payware from SLI, BLW, some from DW (which looks & works fine with SLI stuff) and in the past MLT. I hold no "interest" in SLI other than, like you, I enjoy their models.

                                To address some of the points you raised.

                                Whilst there will be some duplication of stock in this pack I think the pricing is pretty good? Not EVERYBODY already has these duplicates after all? One of the oldest packs (and a favourite of mine) is their BN loco pack. At just under $10 for 6 locomotives (The SP GP40X pack has 4 for the same price) that makes $25 for 10 loco's and 50 plus pieces of stock with 6 OR acts and 3 MSTS acts BETTER value for money. No debate on that it's just pure maths? Further more those of you in the States don't get loaded with SWREG's appalling exchange rate and the fact that they stick 20% "tax" on the price you pay

                                As far as the list of modifications is concerned ....well yes they'd all be nice BUT. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford a brand new state of the art, desktop, set up for simulators PC. Many folk who play an active part in the community, reskins, activity creation, beta testing etc. DON'T have either "the latest" spec machines, don't have the disposable income to buy them, nor the space for much more than a laptop? My point is that for the sake of a few bits of candy you might end up making stuff unusable for those with older or lower spec machines?

                                Don't forget that MSTS has outlived and been modified more than ANY other piece of simulation software ...AND the content will live on in OR making that a much more useful simulator for the future than (IMO) any OTHER rail simulator/game.

                                I ditched RW/TS very early in the game because the lack of freeware turned it into a real "Cashcow". Even Activities (scenarios) were being charged for and many of them depended upon you owning loads of add-ons purely for some "asset" that didn't exist elsewhere?

                                As for SLI diversify and upgrading some of their older models? The output from ALL payware vendors for MSTS has improved over time and OR should offer more opportunity for upgrades? A "New" model can be a revision of an existing model so ....Yes bring 'em on

                                BTW I need some help here ....What's an MU receptacle on the B end?
                                Geoff
                                Dorset - near The Swanage Railway.
                                UK

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