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    #31
    Originally posted by lateagain View Post
    Further more those of you in the States don't get loaded with SWREG's appalling exchange rate and the fact that they stick 20% "tax" on the price you pay
    Yea. I can't help but wonder where they dig up their exchange rates from, it's always WAY under the real rate. This $25 set ended up being around $38 here in Australia.

    Originally posted by lateagain View Post
    BTW I need some help here ....What's an MU receptacle on the B end?
    The socket for the MU Cable ( Multiple Unit )

    Steve

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      #32
      Originally posted by R. Steele View Post
      SLI We are starting a list of improvements for your consideration:
      3. Working Fans
      This could be difficult to achieve. If you'e ever stood over a loco and watched the fans, they don't all work all of the time. Generally the radiator fans tend to spin at different speeds, and one can be off altogether. Obviously the Dynamic Brake fans only operate when dynamics are on, and they vary depending on load being generated by the traction motors.

      While the idea is nice, I can't see it being easy to make happen on a model….well..not the way they work in real life at least.

      Steve
      Last edited by emd645e3c; 07-31-2015, 04:16.

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        #33
        Originally posted by emd645e3c View Post
        Yea. I can't help but wonder where they dig up their exchange rates from, it's always WAY under the real rate. This $25 set ended up being around $38 here in Australia.
        Fair point Steve. I noticed that on a purchase a while back. On the current exchange rate we should be paying around $34 for this set, not $38. It might only be $4, but the difference mounts up quickly with a few purchases.
        Cheers!
        Pete



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          #34
          Originally posted by WynterLee View Post
          My thoughts;

          Open autoracks: Cool! We needed those. I'll probably buy the pack just for those and the SD40 with dynamics.

          Repaints and renumbers of already existing models: What? Okay cool, but I could've done that myself, making the pack worth way less than $25. Try $10 or $15.

          Now before anyone here goes off on me with the "Well don't buy it!" Or "No one is making you buy it." let me get a point across...

          Streamlines is TOTALLY within their right to release whatever they want. But Jay, the guy behind what gets released, doesn't have much of a clue about what the community wants. Even though he has SD60Es, a big SP pack, more SD45s, B30-7s, and an NPCU pack among many other things, he won't release them. Instead we get these re-skins of stuff we already have. Maybe he's trying to get the most bang for his buck? I dunno! Not my business. But for the love of God... There is SO much other stuff that is dearly needed for Open Rails. SD35s, GP40s, GP40-2s, GP39s, GP39-2s, SD38s, SD39s, GP49s, GP50s, GP38s, GP38-2s, etc... etc... I could go on for a long time about what various models need to be either made or upgraded to modern standards that I and many others would love to see.

          Just my two cents...
          I agree with You..... Since it seems a ton of repaints in the files here are bases on the BN Engine pack, it would be nice if there was a simple upgrade to fix the "Fred Flinstone" square wheels. That's my 1/2 cent.

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            #35
            Originally posted by WynterLee View Post
            My thoughts;

            But Jay, the guy behind what gets released, doesn't have much of a clue about what the community wants. Even though he has SD60Es, a big SP pack, more SD45s, B30-7s, and an NPCU pack among many other things, he won't release them.
            I wasn't aware that I had all these models you've mentioned. Maybe you can tell me where they are hiding.

            I must really have some screws loose for sure. Just my two cents

            Regards,
            Jason@SLI

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              #36
              Originally posted by jdilworth View Post
              I wasn't aware that I had all these models you've mentioned. Maybe you can tell me where they are hiding.

              I must really have some screws loose for sure. Just my two cents

              Regards,
              Jason@SLI
              ...drop us a line when you find them!

              BTW you haven't "hidden away" some Big Blow and U50 units too have you? .....just thinking aloud If not the one thing that UP was really famous for was trying out various manufacturers comparative models and experimenting with "BIG" power.

              For instance when they got their first SD40's they bought 10 Alco C630's and 10 U28c's to evaluate them at the same time. (I'm sure YOU know that Jason ...but some on here think nothing pre Dash8 is interesting) As far as BIG power is concerned I love the DD40's but some DD35's and the U50 types would be a big plus. It's also interesting how long they ran the turbines for too being as they realised almost immediately that they were totally uneconomical .
              Geoff
              Dorset - near The Swanage Railway.
              UK

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                #37
                Originally posted by opskeeper View Post
                I agree with You..... Since it seems a ton of repaints in the files here are bases on the BN Engine pack, it would be nice if there was a simple upgrade to fix the "Fred Flinstone" square wheels. That's my 1/2 cent.

                The solution there is to stop downloading these newer repaints of outdated models with the Flintstone wheels. Maybe you have noticed it, too, because I sure have, but there still are Flintstone repaints being put up to the libraries long after refreshed models have been made available. I guess the rationale is the uploader already owns the old one and doesn't yet own the new one. But lets not allow one person's impoverishment to "boat anchor" the entire community. The power is in your hands to "just say no" and wait until repaints based on better models are out.

                Before peaches stormed off in a huff recently, a very eloquent pitch was made to use the Open Rails v1 rollout as a reason for everyone to "take out the trash" from their trainset folders. And I could not agree more.
                My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClc...1kBPO2A/videos

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by R. Steele View Post
                  What is preventing them from making working fans on the engines? Are they allergic to fan animations for pete's sake. That is my only real complaint about them...most every other payware firm has working fans on many models.

                  Does anyone know why they do this...

                  My only observation is many of the animated fans that we already have don't really work like the prototypes, being they are linked to wheel rotation or something weird and do not operate when the train is standing still. When a solution is available to make them operate prototypically, game engine-wise, count me in. Until then, what's to worry about? As for animated wipers, you have to wait until Open Rails progresses to a point where cab functionality becomes stable, until we know "how its going to be going forward" is cemented. Until then, you only have animated wipers like DW has that are only visible when looking at the exterior view. What's that really worth?
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by lateagain View Post
                    As far as the list of modifications is concerned ....well yes they'd all be nice BUT. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford a brand new state of the art, desktop, set up for simulators PC. Many folk who play an active part in the community, reskins, activity creation, beta testing etc. DON'T have either "the latest" spec machines, don't have the disposable income to buy them, nor the space for much more than a laptop? My point is that for the sake of a few bits of candy you might end up making stuff unusable for those with older or lower spec machines?

                    BTW I need some help here ....What's an MU receptacle on the B end?
                    I run a 5 year old computer, with a 10 year old hard drive installed after the one that came with the computer crashed. I'm not sure you need a high end rig to enjoy models with lighted numberboards, rotating fans, MU receptacles, animated wipers and generally feature overall strong attention to detail. Any DW model (with all of the above details) will run fine on my computer.

                    As for the MU receptacles (they look like oversized outlets), take a look at ANY SLI model in ShapeViewer and you will see them on the A-end (front) but not on the B-end.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by geepster775 View Post
                      The solution there is to stop downloading these newer repaints of outdated models with the Flintstone wheels. Maybe you have noticed it, too, because I sure have, but there still are Flintstone repaints being put up to the libraries long after refreshed models have been made available. I guess the rationale is the uploader already owns the old one and doesn't yet own the new one. But lets not allow one person's impoverishment to "boat anchor" the entire community. The power is in your hands to "just say no" and wait until repaints based on better models are out.
                      I think you are being a little harsh here...

                      Not every real world model is the same. Take GEVOS. Some have regular trucks, and some have Steerable Trucks. Some have a nose mounted headlight, and some have a cab mounted headlight. Some have the left side box step up along the long hood walkway, some don't. Take a good look at what equipment is on the roof of the cab. Many differences there too. How about where the rear light is placed...

                      MANY MANY differences, depending on the railroad, and year the equipment was built.

                      One Payware SIM company that I can think of has released several different GEVO models with different features, each, over the years... When only comparing Flintstone wheels to Non-Flintstone wheels, I don't think there are any two that match up otherwise, or at least, there are only a couple of matches...

                      So perhaps you are right, that some repainter may not have that one correct model with non-flintstone wheels out of a dozen incorrect models he does own.

                      I do agree that the when faced with models that do have nearly identical features, that the newest shape, which hopefully does not have Flintstone wheels, should be used.

                      However, I really hope, for the sake of the community, that when it comes to all of the different features that are offered by GE, that all of us would want our community repainters to select the most accurate model shape available to everyone...even if it does have Flintstone wheels. Are round wheels REALLY the most important thing about a repaint?

                      To suggest that most of our community repainters are creating "boat anchors" for the entire community, because they have Flintstone wheels, and then asking other members not to download them because the only thing that is wrong with them is that they have Flintstone wheels, is not fair to all our wonderful creators out there.

                      Originally posted by kknobl View Post
                      I run a 5 year old computer, with a 10 year old hard drive installed after the one that came with the computer crashed. I'm not sure you need a high end rig to enjoy models with lighted numberboards, rotating fans, MU receptacles, animated wipers and generally feature overall strong attention to detail. Any DW model (with all of the above details) will run fine on my computer.
                      Hey All... SLI's CSX ES44AH Trash TrainSet features Lighted Numberboards and Rear Receptacles!

                      As for lighted numberboards, all you have to do is create a separate grouping for just the numberboards, and change the lighting settings (Sorry I can't remember all the Technical Terms for this.) for the numberboards group, so that the graphic will alway be lit, or glowing, even when running trains at night. This has been an option for MSTS, since DAY 1. Even after 14 years, this should not be hard to figure out how to do!!!... I believe the SLI's CSX ES44AH Locomotives were done this way...The numberboards are a separate group. This should not overwhelm any computer no matter how old and slow it is.

                      The rear receptacles are only modelled with just a few more polys...Again, should not too much of an additional drain on any system.



                      One more thing.

                      I have noticed a few posters here complaining that they don't want to purchase this pack, because they don't want to get products that they already have... I totally understand your concern about getting Duplicates...

                      I was not happy to either, when I received TWO SLI BN Autoracks from TWO separate products, and they were identical with the same road number. The only TWO SLI BN Autoracks, that I know of, and they were the same... WHY? I am sure BN had more than one, so why not at least give us a new road number...

                      I can't speak for EVERY possible apparent Duplicate item in this new pack...But I did check out the Screen Shots posted on the description page...and examined them closely!

                      I have SLI's TWO UP GP9s from their GP9 Pack. The road numbers are different that the GP9 unit seen in their Screen Shot. So at least that confirms that there is a THIRD UP GP9 being offered, and not some Duplicate that I already own...

                      Is there REALLY anything wrong with having THREE GP9s instead of TWO?

                      As for getting a third GP9 instead of some other locomotive model that has not been offered yet, well...
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by jdilworth View Post
                        I wasn't aware that I had all these models you've mentioned. Maybe you can tell me where they are hiding.

                        I must really have some screws loose for sure. Just my two cents

                        Regards,
                        Jason@SLI
                        I have eyes and ears in many places. But its all rumors until something physical hits the shelves.
                        Maxwell Brisben
                        President of Northern Vermont Locomotive Works
                        Working Visual Artist
                        BLW Productions/Zosa Trains Texture Artist
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                          #42
                          I started to "glaze over" when you mentioned GEVO's... (ONLY KIDDING!!!) but you're right. Just because Gevo's send me into a coma doesn't mean other folk don't LOVE them and it's the subtle differences that make the model individual. Of course I'm making the massive assumption that anyone who's a train simmer is also a Rail fan??? ...and if you're not you miss out on a whole added area of interest BTW.

                          Like you I have other SLI UP packs and checking the DD40's I was delighted to see that there is more than just two new numbers. There are slight differences in weathering too. I also checked a GP9 from the BLW set that contains UP models and I'm delighted to say that the scale is exactly the same. Now I can mix and match GP20's and GP30's from BLW with the SLI Up stuff so apart from the stuff I mentioned earlier that's a pretty fair selection of UP power for a good few eras?

                          I'm not into "real" model railways but I'm sure those who are buy loco's from whoever makes a specific model. I'm sure (well I'm not sure really? ) They don't rush to a forum and groan because Super HO models only do EMD and Excellent HO models only do GE? ...perhaps they do!
                          Geoff
                          Dorset - near The Swanage Railway.
                          UK

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                            #43
                            I have this set and I am truly pleased with it. Yes there some duplicates but I can accept that for the amount of new cars we picked up! I Must say you all did a great job with this set at SLI.

                            I'm not a huge UP fan but more of a East Coast fan. The simple reason is I grew up there before moving to England than back to the states. I remember seeing the PC with huge E44 and GG1 pulling long trains the B&O/C&O/WM.

                            Recently I have been watching some train videos from the 70's on you tube and I was surprised to see so much of NW on the DH and the Lehigh Valley. I am assuming that these 3 railroads had a really great working partnership by the many different locomotives and cabooses that were used by the others.

                            Some of the videos showed NW units leading D&H and LHV trains with NW cabooses on the end. and these were not run thru freight. Also I noticed that U Boats were really well liked by the D&H and the NW. I really hope Jason at SLI will reconsider and create some U boats.

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                              #44
                              Jason....to answer your question on the drop frame trailers I know Illinois Central (Gulf) had a few back in the 70's and 80's. I remember seeing those going through my home town in Illinois as a kid.....But I dunno if any other rail company had that type of frame.....Hope this helps.
                              Roburt

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by WynterLee View Post
                                My thoughts;

                                Open autoracks: Cool! We needed those. I'll probably buy the pack just for those and the SD40 with dynamics.

                                Repaints and renumbers of already existing models: What? Okay cool, but I could've done that myself, making the pack worth way less than $25. Try $10 or $15.

                                Now before anyone here goes off on me with the "Well don't buy it!" Or "No one is making you buy it." let me get a point across...

                                Streamlines is TOTALLY within their right to release whatever they want. But Jay, the guy behind what gets released, doesn't have much of a clue about what the community wants. Even though he has SD60Es, a big SP pack, more SD45s, B30-7s, and an NPCU pack among many other things, he won't release them. Instead we get these re-skins of stuff we already have. Maybe he's trying to get the most bang for his buck? I dunno! Not my business. But for the love of God... There is SO much other stuff that is dearly needed for Open Rails. SD35s, GP40s, GP40-2s, GP39s, GP39-2s, SD38s, SD39s, GP49s, GP50s, GP38s, GP38-2s, etc... etc... I could go on for a long time about what various models need to be either made or upgraded to modern standards that I and many others would love to see.

                                Just my two cents...
                                A-MEN! The point I was trying to make all along! FAR too many models we dont have.

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