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  • apco25
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1827
    • Home is the Chicago suburbs

    #1

    Another MLT Chessie replacement

    Yes, I fully admit I have a bunch of repaints that are nearly finished that need to be released, yet here I am adding to one of the existing projects. I got motivated with this one so here it is.



    I may release this an individual or as part of my MLT replacement SD50 set for Sandpatch. I haven't forgotten about the P&LE GP38-2 and hopper set either. Look for these soon.

    Anyone good at weathering that would like to take a crack at these?
    Last edited by apco25; 01-08-2011, 08:41.
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  • BNSFSD70ace
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 248
    • Mackay Qld Australia

    #2
    This loco looks pretty sweet man. I don't mind a little chessie system and if you want someone to weather it i could be able to help you there just gotta add it to my to do list lol
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    • bessemer
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2004
      • 930
      • Butler, Pensylvannia, U.S.A.

      #3
      Ya lost the alpha channel there bud. Nice looking repaint, I'll definitely put her to good use on the ol' Keystone Sub.
      Jon Clark - Butler, Pa
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      • apco25
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1827
        • Home is the Chicago suburbs

        #4
        Yes I haven't re-applied the alpha channel. I've generally switched to working with TGA files directly and using Aceit to update my changes in real time to view in shape viewer while editing and creating textures. I don't insert the alpha until I'm completely done. Saves me from dealing with TGAtool2A.

        I'm creating my base textures in Paint.net then going use PSP to finish detail work for shadows, highlights. Not sure how much weathing she needs as pictures from the late 70's early 80's show her fairly clean to quite grimy.
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        • mbrisben
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 749
          • Somewhere Far North

          #5
          The more grime, the merrier!
          Max Brisben
          President of Northern Vermont Locomotive Works
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          • conductorchris
            2500 Post Veteran
            • Mar 2010
            • 2883
            • Vermont
            • General

            #6
            Amen on the grime - this was a coal route!
            Although I will also throw in my memory that Chessie's GE's were rarely seen on SandPatch or in the Cumberland area - I think they must have stayed on the C&O (probably assigned to a shop down there).

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            • apco25
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 1827
              • Home is the Chicago suburbs

              #7
              Ok, grimy it is them. Drop me a PM if you want to weather the textures.
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              • emd645e3c
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 237
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                #8
                Any chance of a clean one as is ?

                Steve

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                • SurlyKnuckle
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 0

                  #9
                  Looks nice. I would like to point out that these units did retain the sheetmetal box on the nose for headlights, although they were blanked out.

                  8242 early in it's life, with 4-windows, and small warning decals: http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephoto...8242cs-c&o.jpg

                  Later, with plated over windows, and additonal decals: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/sho...spx?id=1111432

                  Also note that it seems to have retained it's small Chess-C logo. As units were repainted, some got larger nose decals...that dosen't seem to be the case with the 8242, which might have gone into CSX with it's original GE paint, and not Huntington paint.
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                  • apco25
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1827
                    • Home is the Chicago suburbs

                    #10
                    I have mostly used the 2nd photo you posted for the later in life look. I dont think the windows were plated out, at least in that picture they appear to have been painted over. The nose plate really needs an FA to modeled correctly, which would also allow the horns to be moved and a rock pilot instead of the big plow.

                    I can release an as is clean version.
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                    • SurlyKnuckle
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 0

                      #11
                      While the photos may make it seem like the glass was just painted over (namely because not only were the gaskets were retained, but they were masked off!), they were infact plated over. This was due to CFR title 49, part 223 which became law sometime around 1980, shortly after the first delivery of C&O B30-7s. This sub-part layed out the requirements for window glazing on cars and engines to be of a certain strength (bullet proof). While the railroads obviously had to upgrade the window glazing to the new standards, any place where there were "extra" windows, such as the outer ones common on GE cabs, most elected to plate them over rather than endure the expense of installing new glazing on ALL of the windows.
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                      • apco25
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1827
                        • Home is the Chicago suburbs

                        #12
                        I knew about the FRA glasing requirement. Seems odd from a metal working stand point to leave gaskets on steel plating that was most likely welded in? I'm trying various texture techniques to get the gasket to show as in the photo. So far nothing looks quite right beyond the shadow enhancing i've already done.
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                        • SurlyKnuckle
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 0

                          #13
                          Yes, it is odd. One thing I've noticed alot of on older EMDs is where the marker/class lights have been blanked out on the nose, is that they retain the gasket there as well...but the gasket has been painted the same color as the nose, so you can't really tell until you're up on the engine. It's been like that on a bunch of the geep40-2s I've had here on csx. Of course, the majority had sheet metal squares attached over the openings.

                          Maybe it was some way of retaining the opening and saving the gasket in case the glass was ever re-installed? Who knows...
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                          • jacksparrow1576
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 39

                            #14
                            I can't wait to get my hands on that chessie SD50..

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                            • apco25
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 1827
                              • Home is the Chicago suburbs

                              #15
                              I have 3 of them to release...
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