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  • bennycdn
    Senior Member

    • Sep 2005
    • 383
    • Fayetteville,OH/Chicoutimi,Québec
    • General

    #1

    Soundcfg

    I have like 6 different soundcfg.dat files,getting sound crashes lately,where the sound freezes.Which would be the recommended best to eliminate these crashes.What are the best settings in the file? Could someone elaborate on this.These are the current setting's I'm using:


    Sound (
    Skip ( Scalability 1 - Memory Guide 0 )
    SoundTimer ( 1, 30, 5 )
    AudioStream ( 1, 500, 100 )
    SoundSystem ( 1, 400, 100, 0 )
    TrainMinMaxDistance ( 1, 25.0, 1000.0 )
    AmbientMinMaxDistance ( 1, 20.0, 1000.0 )
    Rolloff ( 1, 1.0 )

    Skip ( Scalability 2 - Memory Guide 1M )
    SoundTimer ( 2, 30, 5 )
    AudioStream ( 2, 500, 100 )
    SoundSystem ( 2, 400, 100, 1048576 )
    TrainMinMaxDistance ( 2, 25.0, 1000.0 )
    AmbientMinMaxDistance ( 2, 20.0, 1000.0 )
    Rolloff ( 2, 1.0 )

    Skip ( Scalability 3 - Memory Guide 5M )
    SoundTimer ( 3, 30, 5 )
    AudioStream ( 3, 500, 100 )
    SoundSystem ( 3, 400, 100, 5242880 )
    TrainMinMaxDistance ( 3, 25.0, 1000.0 )
    AmbientMinMaxDistance ( 3, 20.0, 1000.0 )
    Rolloff ( 3, 1.0 )

    Skip ( Scalability 4 - Memory Guide 10M )
    SoundTimer ( 4, 30, 5 )
    AudioStream ( 4, 500, 100 )
    SoundSystem ( 4, 400, 100, 10485760 )
    TrainMinMaxDistance ( 4, 25.0, 1000.0 )
    AmbientMinMaxDistance ( 4, 20.0, 1000.0 )
    Rolloff ( 4, 1.0 )

    Skip ( Scalability 5 - Memory Guide 30M )
    SoundTimer ( 5, 30, 5 )
    AudioStream ( 5, 500, 200 )
    SoundSystem ( 5, 400, 200, 31457280 )
    TrainMinMaxDistance ( 5, 25.0, 2000.0 )
    AmbientMinMaxDistance ( 5, 20.0, 1500.0 )
    Rolloff ( 5, 1.0 )

    Skip ( Generic, Overall stuff )
    VolumeTweak ( 1.0 0.4 )
    )

    Thanks Benny
  • PennCentral1970
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 0

    #2
    I have tried probably a dozen different soundcfg files over the years and NONE have eliminated crashes entirely. The pattern is that I will change the file (most recently I tried this line in Scalability 5: SoundSystem ( 5, 800, 800, 0 )), run a few activities with no problems and then, out of the blue, have several crashes in a row. (I experienced three in my recent Seligman activity, all when an AI train appeared).

    The "zero" entry often talked about here is NOT a complete fix (and, in fact, in my experience, has not helped at all).

    I'm starting to wonder if the crashes are even related to the soundcfg file at all. I've experienced them the entire 8 years I have run MSTS -- on three different computers, three different soundcards, pre-BIN and post-BIN.
    Last edited by PennCentral1970; 01-24-2012, 13:27.

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    • jovet
      2500 Post Veteran
      • May 2006
      • 3050

      #3
      http://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/fix_sound.html Specifically the "Important Update" near the bottom of the page.

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      • PennCentral1970
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 0

        #4
        Originally posted by jovet
        http://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/fix_sound.html Specifically the "Important Update" near the bottom of the page.
        That's the "zero" entry thing and, again, in my experience, it has not helped. I have the same number of crashes with it as I have with high numbers for that entry.

        It is claimed that putting zero in the line forces the sim to allocate all available memory to the sounds. I am definitely not a programmer but I think that claim is pure conjecture. I'm a VERY heavy user of MSTS and I have seen no improvement with it (though I will concede that some users claim that it is a great improvement).
        Last edited by PennCentral1970; 01-24-2012, 13:47.

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        • jovet
          2500 Post Veteran
          • May 2006
          • 3050

          #5
          Originally posted by PennCentral1970
          It is claimed that putting zero in the line forces the sim to allocate all available memory to the sounds. I am definitely not a programmer but I think that claim is pure conjecture. I'm a VERY heavy user of MSTS and I have seen no improvement with it (though I will concede that some users claim that it is a great improvement).
          Do you use Bin? Do you use the -mem switch? There should be a reason why others have marked improvement and you do not.

          Edit: I'd also like to point out that you said "for that entry"... it's not just one line that needs changed, it's all the "SoundSystem" lines in each of the 5 Scalability groups, in case you didn't notice that.
          Last edited by jovet; 01-24-2012, 13:50.

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          • PennCentral1970
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 0

            #6
            Originally posted by jovet
            Do you use Bin? Do you use the -mem switch? There should be a reason why others have marked improvement and you do not.

            Edit: I'd also like to point out that you said "for that entry"... it's not just one line that needs changed, it's all the "SoundSystem" lines in each of the 5 Scalability groups, in case you didn't notice that.
            Of course I use Bin and the -mem switch. I've been running the sim almost every day for the past 8 years so I'm pretty familiar with all the tricks. And while I know that the other scalability groups have changes, my understanding has always been that Group 5 is the only one that matters for those using max sliders (which I do).

            I suspect that others THINK they have marked improvement based on casual, occasional running of the sim. As someone who is a heavy user, I can say that my results have not been impressive.

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            • bennycdn
              Senior Member

              • Sep 2005
              • 383
              • Fayetteville,OH/Chicoutimi,Québec
              • General

              #7
              What should the setting be in the sound accelaration,in DXDIAG.There are four bars,I have mine set to 3 from the left.

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              • hiball 3985
                2500 Post Veteran
                • Oct 2007
                • 3374
                • Tujunga Calif (Senile City)

                #8
                Originally posted by bennycdn
                What should the setting be in the sound accelaration,in DXDIAG.There are four bars,I have mine set to 3 from the left.
                I had similar problems at one time and found MSTS doesn't like to much acceleration and I keep mine set to basic.
                Jim

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                • qballbandit
                  5000 Post Veteran
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6386
                  • Elgin Il., USA.
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  I am with you, Cas. Same boat here. Not sure if you saw my post a few weeks back, but much was discussed there as well.

                  Jim, are you still on XP? I ask because I am not aware of any DXDIAG sliders to tweak within WIN 7, unless I've gone lame.
                  Neil

                  Chicago Railroading Fan

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                  • bennycdn
                    Senior Member

                    • Sep 2005
                    • 383
                    • Fayetteville,OH/Chicoutimi,Québec
                    • General

                    #10
                    Neil
                    Yes XP it is,moved it back to basic,hasn't crashed since,soo... a good sign? Using a C MEDIA PCI audio card.

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                    • hiball 3985
                      2500 Post Veteran
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3374
                      • Tujunga Calif (Senile City)

                      #11
                      Originally posted by qballbandit
                      I am with you, Cas. Same boat here. Not sure if you saw my post a few weeks back, but much was discussed there as well.

                      Jim, are you still on XP? I ask because I am not aware of any DXDIAG sliders to tweak within WIN 7, unless I've gone lame.
                      Yes, I'm using XP.
                      Jim

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                      • qballbandit
                        5000 Post Veteran
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 6386
                        • Elgin Il., USA.
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Wow, i do remember doing that on my older XP system. Is there similar methodology to ease back the acceleration on a WIN 7 system? I am willing to try anything as a test!
                        Neil

                        Chicago Railroading Fan

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                        • bennycdn
                          Senior Member

                          • Sep 2005
                          • 383
                          • Fayetteville,OH/Chicoutimi,Québec
                          • General

                          #13
                          Since changing the final entry to "0" and moving the acceleration to basic,I haven't had any crashes.Thanks to all who replied for all the help.

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