Dynamic Braking/Run 4

[robertlearmont]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

CNW SD50 Manual:

Run 2

[chucksc]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Wait for a GM Megapak coming to a file library near you one of these days! ;-)

Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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[chlacey]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Chuck,

Thanks again for your help. It's good to see these minor improvements being worked into your new products. By the way, has any more been done about the issue of the engine RPMs remaining the same between IDLE and RUN 1 on the EMDs (but with the contactors dropping in and the main generator starting to load). It would seem to be a fairly straightforward fix. What do you think and how would you approach it? Thanks.

Craig

[chucksc]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

BTW, to clarify things the Fix I posted to Craig on here is from the GM Megapak we are currently working on, with some help from Dan. Just in case some one else decides to "invent" this technique....
Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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[chucksc]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Please ship them to me Dan...
Thanks again...

Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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[deejay1020]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Chuck,
I also have some samples of the turbocharger and some more air dryer samples (faster and more random 'click' rate) if you are interested. Probably couldn't do much with the turbocharger on the internal audio, but you can sure hear it from the outside.

[xlspecial261]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

As I recall, EMD's rev up to run 4-5 and no higher.

They are not supposed to do this in set up, but when you advance the handle to about 4 or 5. Of course sometimes things don't work right and they do rev up right away. Red Barn 9013 is currently like this, but the Diesel Dr. now knows about it. (As he said; It isn't supposed to do that, eh? )

This is as much for the traction motor blowers as anything I have been told. Below 4 or so you don't really need the extra cooling.

Todd

[krswen]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Chuck .... it's probably going to be next weekend now.

I just spent the last day and a half installing a wireless network (including 0ver 4 hours with MS tech support!) and I'm migrating my MSTS stuff to the new computer. Using it as an excuse to do some thinning and house cleaning while I'm at it.


krswen

[chucksc]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Hey Ken, ship it over to me too as I am working on updates for the NALW GE sounds including the Genesis units....
Save me some trouble....
BTW, thanks to Dan of Facing Point I have a set of GE air dryer sounds also....

Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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[krswen]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Sure enough ..... if you put the left IFD (Integrated Function Display; the screens you see on the engineer's desktop in Dash9s and AC4400s) into "Locomotive Monitor" mode you can read the engine speed while you're running.

Turns out for GEs the speeds are 440, 580, 718, 888 and 995rpm for increasing levels of DB effort. I've created a new sound stream patterned after Chuck's suggestion above to model this in the sim.

I also opened the DB blower access hatch and counted the blades on the one of the fans so I can adjust the d9_dynb_dyn1.wav stream to the right frequencies as a function of DB effort.

I'm planning on releasing an update to gesnd10.zip this weekend which will include this new stream as well as Salem 824 and 975 air filter and dryer blowdown sounds.

If I get it working to my satisfaction I'll include improved Alerter script as well.


krswen

[krswen]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

On the latest GE's the engine speed increases with dynamic braking setting. I thought I remembered seeing something in the 700s last time I ran Brake 8. I'll try to get some real numbers this week.

krswen

[chucksc]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Actually Craig that is how it is "supposed" to work IIRC....
More DB = More excitation needed = more prime mover rpm....
Ask Kro52 or one of the other "runners" on here and see what they say....

Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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[chlacey]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Chuck,

Thanks for the help. When I attempted your fix, several interesting things happened: 1) The engine speed immediately increased; 2) The RPMs increased in proportion to the dynamic brake setting, instead of staying at Run 4. 2) The RPMs were also tied to ground speed, so that the engine RPMs dropped off as the locomotive came to a halt.

I guess this is one that will take a little more fine-tuning. By the way, I did the experimentation using the sound files f7cab.sms and f7eng.sms, from the funit.zip download originally created by the Aussies and converted to right-hand operation. Those files used the GP38 default sound file for Run 4(gp_power_cruise4.wav).

I'll continue to fiddle around with the idea, and look forward to any additional suggestions you may have. Thanks again!

[chucksc]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

The stream would look something like this;

Stream (
Skip( **** Dynamic brakes **** )
Priority ( 6 )
Triggers ( 2
Variable_Trigger ( Variable3_Inc_Past 0.05 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File ( "SOME-ENGINE-RUN4.WAV" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )
Variable_Trigger ( Variable3_Dec_Past 0.05 ReleaseLoopRelease () )
)
FrequencyCurve(
Variable3Controlled
CurvePoints ( 2
0.0 12025
1.0 17800
)
Granularity ( 100 )
)
)



Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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[chlacey]

RE: Dynamic Braking/Run 4

Thanks, Chuck. How would I go about tying the Run 4 sound to "Set Up" and braking? I'm a novice at this sort of thing. I'm assuming that I would be doctoring some .sms or other similar files.