Route Editor!

[FSSARNO]

Hello!
Me again,still working on the Alaska Route-i have a question regarding the Route Editor since i have a 24 inch HD Monitor
and made the RE display larger and works fine,but is there a way to make all editors segments like the Object display-or any
other larger?

Anybody, is there a way,if so how?
Thanks!

fssarno
Arno

[charlie]

i have a question regarding the Route Editor since i have a 24 inch HD Monitor
and made the RE display larger and works fine,but is there a way to make all editors segments like the Object display-or any
other larger?

Hi Arno, you need to get Resource Hacker. There are several sources, and here's one. After installing I gave it a Working sub-folder.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/File-Editors/Resource-Hacker.shtml

Make a backup of the "dialog.dll" in your MSTS main folder and put a copy into your Working sub-folder. If you use BIN, make sure you have the version you wish to stick with since updating BIN will wipe out your edits. Start ResHacker and open "dialog.dll".

How to find the dialog you want: There are several words on the Object window you mentioned. At "View" do a "Find Text...". If you look for "object", you will get several hits before you finally get to the dialog 146 that you want. Here's how it looks.
ResHack.jpg

There are two direct ways to go about editing this dialog. The first is to do a little typing. For instance you could simply change "elev:" to "elevation:". However, now's your chance to finally get that one corrected. It applies only to pieces of track, and it's "Angle:" The four numerical coordinates for each element work as follows: 1st - pixels from left border, 2nd - from top border, 3rd - pixel width, 4th - pixel height.

The second method is to operate with the mouse right on the dialog window. For instance just drag the borders to a new window size. Click on any element in the dialog and you can move the element or drag it's borders to a new size. After a while you can have a nice rearranged dialog.

However, there's an indirect method that may get you closer to what you really want, and it's trivially easy. None of the above does anything for font size. If you're after that also, right-click anywhere (except the blue region in my screenie) inside the dialog window and select "Edit Dialog". This window pops up.
Dialog_Edit.jpg

Simply edit the Font Size and select OK, and this just happens immediately. I set the font size to an over-sized 20 just to give you an idea. You'll have to experiment to get what you want.
Font_20.jpg

With any method, when satisfied click on the "Compile Script" button. For MSTS you can also edit "string.dll" to change how the sim gives you info or "talks" to you. You might be careful not to reveal what you're really thinking on that one.

regards,
charlie

[FSSARNO]

Charlie!
Thanks a million for your help.
Did make the changes and everything working fine.

Thanks again!
fssarno
Arno

[charlie]

You're in trouble now Arno. You'll be tinkering with dialog.dll and string.dll forever now...

regards,
charlie

[FSSARNO]

Hi Charlie!
Can you give some advise i have new computer-Windows 8 Pro-3 gen. intel-16 mb ram and i,m using Rehacker and this work fine
except in the Placement Dialog ,cannot get more then 5 lines for track pieces.
Is this because of Windows 8 ?
Can you help me this!

Thanks for your help before and this very helpful.

fssarno
Arno

[charlie]

Is this because of Windows 8 ?
Can you help me this!

I'm sorry Arno, I've not gone anywhere near Win8 yet and can't offer any advise for it.

EDIT: But what's wrong with the dialog you get with BIN? It has bunches more than 5 lines...

regards,
charlie

[DCRR1]

Is this is what you are referring to? If so a program to make the Object Placement Window larger was uploaded to the F/L here some time ago. I tried to find a link to the file but a search resulted in about 20 pages and I just didn't have the time to go through all of them. Perhaps someone here will be able to supply a link. As you can see the window is much larger and has scrolling ability. I originally downloaded this to a Me OS, currently working on Vista Ultimate, Iy may work on W8.

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John

[DCRR1]

ResHacker\dialog.dll\dialog\module 144

Below is the modified module 144 which will produce a module as show in above post. This is dll, Vista Ultimate.

144 DIALOGEX 0, 0, 158, 213

STYLE DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_CAPTION | WS_SYSMENU
EXSTYLE WS_EX_TOOLWINDOW

CAPTION "Placement"

LANGUAGE LANG_ENGLISH, SUBLANG_ENGLISH_US

FONT 8, "Times New Roman"
{

CONTROL "", 1168, EDIT, ES_LEFT | ES_AUTOHSCROLL | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP, 2, 193, 35, 12

CONTROL "", 1133, LISTBOX, LBS_NOTIFY | LBS_NOINTEGRALHEIGHT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_BORDER | WS_VSCROLL | WS_TABSTOP, 46, 15, 111, 160

CONTROL "More..", 1134, BUTTON, BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 47, 178, 63, 12

CONTROL "", 1123, BUTTON, BS_PUSHBUTTON | BS_ICON | BS_CENTER | BS_TOP | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 65535, 207, 109, 6

CONTROL "x:", -1, STATIC, SS_CENTER | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 0, 15, 10, 10

CONTROL "y:", -1, STATIC, SS_CENTER | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 0, 28, 10, 10

CONTROL "z:", -1, STATIC, SS_CENTER | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 0, 40, 10, 10

CONTROL "grid:", 1040, BUTTON, BS_AUTOCHECKBOX | BS_LEFTTEXT | BS_RIGHT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 5, 179, 39, 10

CONTROL "tile objects:", -1, STATIC, SS_LEFT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 40, 195, 36, 10

CONTROL "0", 1171, STATIC, SS_RIGHT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 85, 194, 23, 10 , 0x00020000

CONTROL "0", 1136, STATIC, SS_LEFT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 10, 15, 35, 12 , 0x00020000

CONTROL "0", 1137, STATIC, SS_LEFT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 10, 27, 35, 12 , 0x00020000

CONTROL "0", 1138, STATIC, SS_LEFT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 10, 39, 35, 12 , 0x00020000

CONTROL "", 1167, STATIC, SS_LEFTNOWORDWRAP | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 10, 3, 99, 10 , 0x00020000
}

John

[FSSARNO]

Hi Ctndi!
Thanks for your help.
I have now tried your data 4 times but still not get just 5 lines.
Is this because my new computer has windows 8 Pro,with 16 Mb ram?
Maybe you have more ideas to solve this?

Again Thank you for your help!

fssarno
Arno

[DCRR1]

It may very well be Windows 8 and how it handles the output of various programs. I am no expert in computers. However I believe that an edited .dll should have the same output on any computer.

Using ResHack, did you try to stretch individual portions of the box using the handles and arrows?

JOHN

[rdamurphy]

Is this is what you are referring to? If so a program to make the Object Placement Window larger was uploaded to the F/L here some time ago. I tried to find a link to the file but a search resulted in about 20 pages and I just didn't have the time to go through all of them. Perhaps someone here will be able to supply a link. As you can see the window is much larger and has scrolling ability. I originally downloaded this to a Me OS, currently working on Vista Ultimate, Iy may work on W8.

John

You're thinking of RE-Explorer, it was by Tom Boswell. Unfortunately, it's been removed. It was actually quite a useful program, I use it all the time. Tom sent me the Source Files, and IIRC said to do whatever I wanted to do with it. I'll see if I have the email. I've modded it a bit to do what I wanted it to do, but if not, it wouldn't take much to write a new version with .net. Tom's version was in VB6.0 and won't work in Vista/7/8 without installing the VB runtimes.

Robert

[FSSARNO]

Hi Charlie!
Please explain the comment to use bin,i don't understand this
can you please give me a rundown for this.
I have never made any changes or how???

Thanks Charlie!
P.S. i,m still have problems with "Placement"-make this more then 5 items
i had no problem with Windows 7 Ultimate,but now i have this new computer
Windows 8 Pro.

[charlie]

Hi Charlie!Please explain the comment to use bin,i don't understand this
can you please give me a rundown for this.
I have never made any changes or how???

Hi Arno, MSTS BIN is here at UKTrainSim.

http://mstsbin.uktrainsim.com/eng/eng.html

It has been supplied with edited versions of dialog.dll and string.dll, so if you install it, your versions of these two files (and some others) will be over-written. It's been so long since I installed BIN that I've forgotten where backups for these two files are kept, but I had made my own anyway.

In the attached pic, I just dumped a bunch of stuff into the Placement window and kept going untile the scroll bar was activated. I have no idea what the limit is or if there is one.

If you have made many edits of dialog.dll, you might want to just examine Dialog 144 to see if you can make the same changes to your version.

regards,
charlie
Placement_1.jpg

[FSSARNO]

Thanks Charlie!
That solve the problem.
Again for your help.

fssarno
Arno

[muskokaandtahoe]

Based on this thread I started playing around and in a few minutes figured out how to change the placement window and whatever the window that pops up when you click on more so that both are the height of the screen (in my case that's 1200 pixels). Very easy to do, just follow Charlie's instructions in post #2.

What I did specifically was first to pull the window vertically so it was as tall as the screen, then, starting at the very bottom, mouse selected the tiny strip marked with the black triangle and dragged it down to the bottom, repeated that with the More button, and then selected and dragged the display window. I didn't bother worrying about matching the original side to side offsets. Then I did the same sort of thing to the "More" window. HUGE difference in usability. Just HUGE.