Horn/Bell connection on new TS loco's

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  • Curt C
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2001
    • 1020
    • UP's dead Santa Barbara Sub

    #1

    Horn/Bell connection on new TS loco's

    For the new TS engine packs (Soo Line, Conrail, etc.), is there a way to adjust the eng file so that the bell will continuously ring when the horn is blown, similar the the adjustment that could be made in MSTS eng files (i.e. "DoesHornTriggerBell" changing from "0" to "1").
    Thanks for any help,
  • R. Steele
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    • Feb 2013
    • 3922
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #2
    Originally posted by Curt C
    For the new TS engine packs (Soo Line, Conrail, etc.), is there a way to adjust the eng file so that the bell will continuously ring when the horn is blown, similar the the adjustment that could be made in MSTS eng files (i.e. "DoesHornTriggerBell" changing from "0" to "1").
    Thanks for any help,
    For a specific locomotive try adding the line as shown below ( example from Conrail 2nd Gen set ) should work, post here if it does not.
    Code:
    CabView ( GP40-2.cvf )
    	HeadOut ( 1.85 3.432 5.014 )
    	DoesHornTriggerBell ( 1 )
    	include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V2\\Locomotives\\EMD_GP40_2\\EMD_GP40_2_ENG_Brakes_EF.inc" )
    
    	include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V2\\Locomotives\\EMD_GP40_2\\EMD_GP40_2_Motive_257k_61_16.inc" )
    	
    	include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V2\\Locomotives\\Generic\\EMD_2ndGen_Monitors_Alerter.inc" )
    
    	include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V2\\Locomotives\\Generic\\8_Notch_Throttle_Continuous_DB.inc" )
    	
      Sound ( "EMD645E3_cab.sms" )
    For it to affect all locomotives try adding the line to one of the include files...this may take some experimentation...try this first...
    EMD_GP40_2_Motive_257k_61_16.inc file:
    Code:
    Type ( Diesel )
     WheelRadius ( 20in )
     ORTSNumberDriveAxles ( 4 )
     MaxVelocity ( 76mph )
     Comment ( 76 MPH limit due to 61:16 gear ratio, D77 traction motors )
     MaxCurrent ( 1500A )
     Comment ( MaxForce below necessary for ammeter gauge functionality )
     MaxForce ( 287.206kN )
     MaxDieselLevel ( 2600g-us )
     MaxTemperature ( 120 )
     MaxOilPressure ( 90 )
     DoesHornTriggerBell ( 1 )
     Sanding ( 70mph )
     ORTSMaxTrackSanderBoxCapacity ( 56ft^3 )
    
    	Comment ( From EMD graph for GP40-2, 257,000 lbs, adjusted to 61:16 gearing )
    	ORTSMaxTractiveForceCurves (
    or perhaps in the monitor include file. Try some edits and see what happens. PM me if you need to.
    Last edited by R. Steele; 11-01-2022, 19:00.
    Cheers, Gerry
    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
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    • marklester01
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
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      #3
      Ok, That Answers A,"What If"Question For Future, So Can Others Can Know, But What About The Ctrl+B( For Continuous Bell Function(s) like MSTS had as well )? Thanks for The Help.

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      • R. Steele
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        • Feb 2013
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        • ORTS

        #4
        Originally posted by marklester01
        Ok, That Answers A,"What If"Question For Future, So Can Others Can Know, But What About The Ctrl+B( For Continuous Bell Function(s) like MSTS had as well )? Thanks for The Help.
        I think the keyboard command for continuous bell in OR is Shift+B
        Cheers, Gerry
        "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
        It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
        Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
        Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace

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        • marklester01
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          • Jan 2008
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          #5
          Ok, thanks on that.

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          • marklester01
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            • Jan 2008
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            #6
            Nope! Tried to no avail! I've Tested Out an CSXT Gevo AH With A Brody Cab ( RW, CS ). Anyway, Bell is Set to DoesHornTriggerBell(1). Works Only On Outside, & Only The Horn Works Inside, NO Bell It's The Only Unit to do this,Why & Fix?

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            • charland
              2500 Post Veteran

              • Dec 2006
              • 2835
              • Brockville, ON, CA
              • General

              #7
              Check your Sound folder, make sure you have a "Bell.wav" file, but you also have to check the cab sms file to make sure it's named the same. I've downloaded and probably uploaded engines where the sms file is looking for a wave file with one name but the file it's looking for is named something else.

              Paul :-)

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              • marklester01
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 510
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                • North American General English-Some RailFan

                #8
                I'll Double Check It again. It's got The Bell In-Put Yes, but no Audio/Sound( only The Selnoid PopValve Off, For It's A Digi-Bell ). I'll Upgrade Over To ORTS( I Think There's One Of Those Like The Gevos?). But, Anyway I've Checked Sev. Times. And, thanks.

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                • charland
                  2500 Post Veteran

                  • Dec 2006
                  • 2835
                  • Brockville, ON, CA
                  • General

                  #9
                  If you have another unit you like the sounds of, you could replace the Sound folder in the unit you are having trouble with and point the lines in the eng file to the sms files.

                  Paul :-)

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                  • marklester01
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
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                    #10
                    Thanks, I'm gonna work on it later after I get The Other(s) Mentioned Earlier In Post On Here & Get The Help after I've,"Digi-Swept"( like I'll to This,lol ), & Upload Their Streams.

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                    • marklester01
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 510
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                      • North American General English-Some RailFan

                      #11
                      Hey, I just remembered! NAVS has a few Packs here in The f/L that has Sound Lines Targeted for Sound-Range Operation that Open-Rails Reads-Only. 2 I can think of are, The EMD 16-645 Roots & TE Sounds( has others within, It Explains ), & A Kit for Tyler's IC SD40 Sets. Each one has a built-in( so to speak ) added-on Bell Command With-in The Sound Lines. Maybe You could get Inspiration as to where The Bell Command(s) needs to be Located from there one of those?

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