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    #16
    Commercial activity packs were popular early on. Free activities are still one of the most uploaded items in the File Library.
    If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, items saved in our library or the ongoing development of our TSRE Fork, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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      #17
      I need to really dive in and learn how to create activities. Especially for the routes I have downloaded from here that didn't come with many or any Acts at all. The routes I have currently, MILW Gap, Milw Coast part 1 and 2 are the ones I need to get done so I can fully enjoy them. I made paths for the routes on OR, but just need to learn how to set up the acts.

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        #18
        Originally posted by spoony1999 View Post
        I need to really dive in and learn how to create activities. Especially for the routes I have downloaded from here that didn't come with many or any Acts at all. The routes I have currently, MILW Gap, Milw Coast part 1 and 2 are the ones I need to get done so I can fully enjoy them. I made paths for the routes on OR, but just need to learn how to set up the acts.
        Take a look at Activity Generator. I have it but haven't yet fully investigated it.
        Regards,

        Nick

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          #19
          Originally posted by spoony1999 View Post
          I need to really dive in and learn how to create activities. Especially for the routes I have downloaded from here that didn't come with many or any Acts at all. The routes I have currently, MILW Gap, Milw Coast part 1 and 2 are the ones I need to get done so I can fully enjoy them. I made paths for the routes on OR, but just need to learn how to set up the acts.
          The answer is to learn to use the TSRE Activity Editor. Unfortunately, the TSRE AE was left as a work-in-progress, with some non or partly functioning features and some bugs. Once one figures out how to work around those, the TSRE is much more OR-friendly and powerful than the MSTS AE. Just expect some frustration and a learning curve. The Elvas Tower forum is another good place to look for help with the TSRE AE. Note that the TSRE AE does NOT have a path creating program--that must be done in the OR TrackViewer. For the record, I have not used the MSTS AE or Consist Editor for a number of years now. I still have ConBuilder, but I seldom use it now. The TSRE Consist Editor works quite well for me. A hint here: One can have the TSRE AE and TSRE Consist Editor open concurrently. Create or modify a consist in the TSRE Consist Editor, then toggle to the TSRE AE and hit the refresh consists button, and those new consists are ready to use in the TSRE AE.

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            #20
            Originally posted by wwhall View Post
            ... Note that the TSRE AE does NOT have a path creating program--that must be done in the OR TrackViewer. ....
            OR Trackviewer is excellent for creating paths, and repairing paths/path nodes...I have not used anything else to make paths. I still use Activity Generator to populate an activity --- it is really an excellent short cut for this labor intensive task. Still learning TSRE-AE, it is quirky and frustrating at times, but if you are serious about making activities it's a must to learn. Along with OR Trackviewer and manual editing of activity files one can accomplish pretty much everything needed.

            Goku made the TSRE code ( which includes the AE ) Open Source...so someone with the skills could work on the AE.
            Cheers, Gerry
            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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              #21
              Hi all,

              " Originally Posted by R. Steele
              You know, this may have been proposed by in the early MSTS days....my experience does not go back that far....but payware activities...not a bad idea. Although there may be pitfalls I'm not aware of.

              This thread, post #25 https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...-Content/page3 contains an insight provided by Sean Kelly on the subject of payware activity packs. Subsequently an expansion pack containing 9 activities was released for Mullan and as Sean alludes to perhaps this is the only financially viable way to see activities commercialised, at least for payware vendors such as TrainSimulations.
              My post #21 prompted his response which was appreciated.

              Cheers
              Duncan

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                #22
                Pre-packaged activities are always a problem. First, any that are provided by payware route creators always use the equipment included with the route. So, you get an activity where the player meets 10 AI trains with identical locomotives and stock to the player train. I have spent hours taking a "ready to run" activity and replacing stock and locomotives with ones that are unique. Big pain. Second, with freeware activities created by other simmers, you get an activity with a list of stock a mile long necessary to run the activity, some of which is often payware, unavailable freeware, or ancient ugly stock that most simmers deleted from their sim years ago. So, my answer has been to create a lot of my own activities with no intention of distributing them. I use the stock that I want and that I know that I will keep in my sim. I do some of my own re-numbering of both payware and freeware, so no one else has those items other than me. Finally, and I have posted this tip before, I often set up my activities such that I can run it in OpenRails with the original player train and path, or use OR to "jump" to an AI train and run it as the player train. That way, I can run the same activity several different ways.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by wwhall View Post
                  Second, with freeware activities created by other simmers, you get an activity with a list of stock a mile long necessary to run the activity, some of which is often payware, unavailable freeware, or ancient ugly stock that most simmers deleted from their sim years ago.

                  This is why I've been trying my best at making larger packs with various car types and commodities recently, to help reduce this. However considering they are mixed use of freeware and payware, it's still I suppose, frowned upon and ignored.

                  I've tried to do activities myself and release them to the public, using as little additional stock outside of what is offered by Trainsimulations, but even then, they can be messy for those that don't have the appropriate stock, or ignore the readme files completely.
                  -Shawn K-
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                    #24
                    The issue with replacing stock on AI trains/player trains/static consists isn't really a big deal for me. Placing consists and building trains is still something you'd have to do if you create the activity on your own anyway, as well as all of the other components of making a good activity. I'd rather just have a good prebuilt activity (with OR specific features included) and I can customize the consists and trains to my liking from there. Also with a prebuilt activity you can "reverse engineer" it and modify other aspects which gives you a better idea of the nuts and bolts of activity making. Anyone willing to sell their activities I'm interested.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by CNW 5099 View Post
                      The issue with replacing stock on AI trains/player trains/static consists isn't really a big deal for me.....
                      I understand that...If upon downloading a bunch of activities for a route ( made by one person or several ) I find it easy to replace the stock both in both the activity and consist files at the same time using a program like Search and Replace >>> http://www.searchandreplace.com/.

                      After that's accomplished I may have to fine tune the stock in an activity ( or correct mistakes by the author ) but that's no big deal.
                      Cheers, Gerry
                      "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                      It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                      Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                      Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace

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