BNSF ET44ACH package should be called "fictional" locomotives

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  • wwhall
    Senior Member

    • May 2010
    • 566
    • Kansas
    • MSOR

    #1

    BNSF ET44ACH package should be called "fictional" locomotives

    I'll get right to the point. BNSF 3300, 3301, 3302, and 3303 are "Tier 4 Credit" locomotives. The prototype locomotives do NOT have Tier 4 exhaust hoods as depicted in these models. A cursory online search of loco information and photos will show this. As for 3650, it is a "whaleback" exhaust hood locomotive, like all ET44s produced in the last 3 years+. Again, some cursory research easily shows this. There are plenty of older Tier 4 units with the "original" Tier 4 exhaust hood that could have been accurately modeled, but that was not done with these. So, these units are modeled with MAJOR inaccuracies compared to the prototype locomotives. I don't mind "fictional" content all at--I just don't like it when obviously inaccurate content is purported as an accurate representation of prototype equipment when it so blatantly is not.
  • Fish4890
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 428
    • ENG
    • MSOR

    #2
    stop complaining
    Brandon Leister
    Leister Locomotive Works
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    • CSRX
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      • Apr 2015
      • 12999
      • Lincoln, ME
      • English
      • ORTS

      #3
      I just fail to understand why these units are being ignored..



      I tried helping and pointing in the right direction for fonts on the CN unit, and quickly gave up as it was mostly ignored.

      Now, I know some of my items have some inaccuracies, but that's due to the limitation of the models used, my lack of ability on modeling extra parts, and the lack of anyone willing to lend a hand on New England based files that aren't BNSF or UP. haha.
      -Shawn K-
      Waterville Rail Shops
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      MEC Back Road(Eastern Sub): 5% Track, 3% Scenery.

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      • Fish4890
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 428
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        #4
        But these were Renumberd from An Other Set But Not Re done
        Brandon Leister
        Leister Locomotive Works
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        • kevhead
          Senior Member
          • May 2002
          • 407
          • USA
          • General

          #5
          Be cool if train simulations or someone would make a Accurate payware model of this model.
          sparkplug

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          • ngc427
            Member

            • Nov 2018
            • 71
            • Western Pennsylvania
            • English

            #6
            Originally posted by CSRX
            I just fail to understand why these units are being ignored..
            I've had my eye on doing reskins for those units for a while but there's no available blanks, and especially when it comes to making one, that giant UP flag is notably hard to remove

            Originally posted by CSRX
            I tried helping and pointing in the right direction for fonts on the CN unit, and quickly gave up as it was mostly ignored.
            That's how it is nowadays. I even left a comment on his TrainSimCommunity upload stating the correct font for his units (as he had said an incorrect font in the description, even), but that was quickly steamrolled by him including payware shapes and sounds in the download.

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            • CSRX
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              • Apr 2015
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              #7
              Originally posted by ngc427

              I've had my eye on doing reskins for those units for a while but there's no available blanks, and especially when it comes to making one, that giant UP flag is notably hard to remove



              That's how it is nowadays. I even left a comment on his TrainSimCommunity upload stating the correct font for his units (as he had said an incorrect font in the description, even), but that was quickly steamrolled by him including payware shapes and sounds in the download.
              Yeah, same. I've been wanting to do BNSF versions on it, but I haven't sat down to attempt the primer coating. That doesn't surprise me, he has been noted for that before here on his older work too.


              Originally posted by kevhead
              Be cool if train simulations or someone would make a Accurate payware model of this model.
              Click the link I provided above. Someone created this model. It's for UP, but still, and don't worry, it's not from me, so you won't need to look for a bunch of shapes to make it work...​
              -Shawn K-
              Waterville Rail Shops
              MEC Mountain Division: 28% Track, 15% Scenery.
              MEC Back Road(Eastern Sub): 5% Track, 3% Scenery.

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              • derekmorton
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                • Nov 1999
                • 5399
                • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
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                #8
                Wade, thank you for pointing that out, it has been noted.

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                • wwhall
                  Senior Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 566
                  • Kansas
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fish4890
                  stop complaining
                  A lot content creators here on TS and elsewhere--both freeware and payware--expend a lot of effort and research time to make sure that their creations are as accurate and well-executed as possible. You apparently just don't care that much--that's on you, not on the rest of the community when such deficiencies in your product are pointed out.

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                  • eric
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 8424
                    • MP36 UPRR Harvard Subdivision
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                    #10
                    I'm all for having meaningful uploads to the library, be they real or fictional as we've seen with the Full Bucket Line.

                    That said, Wade makes a good point.

                    If you can't take constructive feedback when it's offered, please don't waste our time, and especially don't waste other people's quota.
                    If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, items saved in our library or the ongoing development of our TSRE Fork, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                    • crstagg
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                      • Nov 1999
                      • 4657
                      • Huntsville, AL
                      • Texan
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by eric
                      I'm all for having meaningful uploads to the library, be they real or fictional as we've seen with the Full Bucket Line.

                      That said, Wade makes a good point.

                      If you can't take constructive feedback when it's offered, please don't waste our time, and especially don't waste other people's quota.


                      Suggestion: Add a "Review" section to the Uploaded File comments so that comments as in post #1 could warn future downloaders.
                      Charles

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                      • dcarleton
                        Senior Member

                        • Nov 2008
                        • 762

                        #12
                        Originally posted by eric
                        please don't waste our time, and especially don't waste other people's quota.
                        Thank you for pointing that out.
                        Somebody's paying for all this bandwidth!

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                        • geepster775
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                          #13
                          I guess I never understood the consecutive number thing to turn a repaint into a bigger pack. The practice seems like a quickie substitute to doing any number series research.
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                          • crstagg
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dcarleton

                            ...........
                            Somebody's paying for all this bandwidth!
                            Tell that to 213 001-1

                            Charles

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                            • Jdark34
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 540
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                              #15
                              wwhall just go what you got and stop complaining and enjoy the locomotives and drive them ok

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