Turntable Question

[CSXT Q-317]

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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind in the future.

[huha435]

Thank you, works like a charm .

[eric]

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[R. Steele]

Well..... not just anyone.

Whoops! Sorry 'bout that.

[dfalshaw]

All well and good, but when done by the book, it doesn't work. Turntable just disappears completely, leaving my loco suspended in air over what looks like a mine crater.

[R. Steele]

but when done by the book, it doesn't work

With respect --- then it was not done by the book, recheck your work. Two other people ( myself being one of them ) have had problems...both of us rechecked our work and found our errors.

Mine >>> forgot to put turntables.dat file in route's "OpenRails" folder ( if the dat file is not in the route's "OpenRails" folder, it will appear but it will not revolve )

Other user ( at Elvas ): Eric"s new turntable shape file SR_Turntable_w_37m.s was not placed in the Global/Shapes directory. ( if the shape file is not in the proper folder, it will not appear in the simulation )

[niknak]

With respect --- then it was not done by the book, recheck your work. Two other people ( myself being one of them ) have had problems...both of us rechecked our work and found our errors.

Mine >>> forgot to put turntables.dat file in route's "OpenRails" folder ( if the dat file is not in the route's "OpenRails" folder, it will appear but it will not revolve )

Other user ( at Elvas ): Eric"s new turntable shape file SR_Turntable_w_37m.s was not placed in the Global/Shapes directory. ( if the shape file is not in the proper folder, it will not appear in the simulation )

Agreed. Mine works fine and if I can do it then anyone should be able to ! In my case the 1st time I'd forgotten to switch into manual mode

[dfalshaw]

With respect --- then it was not done by the book, recheck your work. Two other people ( myself being one of them ) have had problems...both of us rechecked our work and found our errors.

Mine >>> forgot to put turntables.dat file in route's "OpenRails" folder ( if the dat file is not in the route's "OpenRails" folder, it will appear but it will not revolve )

Other user ( at Elvas ): Eric"s new turntable shape file SR_Turntable_w_37m.s was not placed in the Global/Shapes directory. ( if the shape file is not in the proper folder, it will not appear in the simulation )

With all due respect, both of those were done to the letter of the instructions.

[CSXT Q-317]

All well and good, but when done by the book, it doesn't work. Turntable just disappears completely, leaving my loco suspended in air over what looks like a mine crater.

I'm not sure what happened on your end.

As mentioned before the Turntable shape must be in the Global Shapes folder.

I had encountered this problem myself prior to release. It turned out that at that time, I didn't have a couple of things just right in the files, which I did fix before release.

I tested it on another route before working to update the FBL turntable.

I assume you have ScaleRail, let me know if you are still having problems.

[dfalshaw]

I'm not sure what happened on your end.

As mentioned before the Turntable shape must be in the Global Shapes folder.

I had encountered this problem myself prior to release. It turned out that at that time, I didn't have a couple of things just right in the files, which I did fix before release.

I tested it on another route before working to update the FBL turntable.

I assume you have ScaleRail, let me know if you are still having problems.

Yes, I do have ScaleRail installed. The turntable shape file is in TrainSimulator\Global\Shapes. The turntable .dat file is in the OpenRails folder within the route. My understanding is that these are the correct install locations. I have to assume some type of glitch, perhaps a virus, or some other error somewhere else that is impacting on this.

FBL is not a favourite route of mine. I almost always focus on passenger operations. Before I had this problem, I had decided it would be interesting to see and admire someone else's work, but I would not be keeping the route. I have since deleted it, as it is not in my area of interest.

Thank you for your kind response and offer of assistance.

[PerryPlatypus]

Do you have the *modified* turntable shape files installed, with the animation sections added to it in the Global/Shapes folder? These are different shape files than what come with the default Scale Rails installers! If you leave the default ScaleRails turntable shape file in the Global/Shapes folder, it will cause exactly what you are experiencing - the shape disappears and leaves a blank hole. This is because the Turntables.dat file is looking for a shape with the necessary animation parameters, but if the shape doesn't have them, it errors out and doesn't display any shape in the sim.

[eric]

Correct, the 37m turntable in the Scalerail installation file did not have any animation parameters. There is a new upload in the library (linked above) which has the animation parameters needed.

[dfalshaw]

Do you have the *modified* turntable shape files installed, with the animation sections added to it in the Global/Shapes folder? These are different shape files than what come with the default Scale Rails installers! If you leave the default ScaleRails turntable shape file in the Global/Shapes folder, it will cause exactly what you are experiencing - the shape disappears and leaves a blank hole. This is because the Turntables.dat file is looking for a shape with the necessary animation parameters, but if the shape doesn't have them, it errors out and doesn't display any shape in the sim.

Yes.I downloaded the files linked at the top of the topic. The new sr_turntable_w_37m.s is still in my TrainSimulator\Global\Shapes folder. The turntable.dat file was in the openrails folder of the updated route before I deleted the route. I'm sure I've made a small mistake, probably a typo, somewhere that is impacting on this.

Turntable problems aside, the update is better than very good, and I'm impressed by the work the author(s) did on it. But passenger ops are my interest, and FBL simply doesn't offer enough. So, for me, terrific as the update is, FBL is never going to be a route I'll use often.

And I really do appreciate all the help I'm getting here.

[CSXT Q-317]

I should say, that at least in the case of FBL there should be no editing of the DAT file. Assuming the animated SR turntabIe was placed in the global shapes already. The DAT file was a drop-in update to the routes open rails folder.

Now, if you are going to use it in other routes all you should be editing is the number of turntables and the locations ( the tile in which it is located ) which is at the top.

I am planning to mod the WP with an operable turntable.

Again, before its release, I had the problem with the disappearing turntable, and if I recall I didn't have a thing or two correct in the DAT file. Which I did correct, and tested the process in my
Ohio Division route first before moving to the FBL.

I hope that this clears up any confusion.

[jdgremsjr]

Finally got the time to install the turntable mod, and it works perfectly. I just had to remember that <CNTRL><C> and <ALT><C> where used to rotate the table. It works great and when I get a few days I'll be creating a new activity. Frampton to Fort Fairfax.