Sli loco packs

[dkingsburg]

I'm trying to Download EL & PRR SD45 Sets. However they Require BN SD45 #6476 from Train Simulations BN Pack for the s. File. Where Can I Find those Older Pack from StreamLines/Trainsimulations?
Thankyou,
DaveK

[yellowdog]

Danny Beck BN files

[tarrant75]

Hold off for a bit... there MAY be something coming down the pipe in the next month or two

[dcarleton]

Oh those predecessors of Conrail just don't get enough love....

[tarrant75]

Oh those predecessors of Conrail just don't get enough love....

Trust me, I would LOVE to do some Lehigh Valley stuff, but there really isn't a good quality route to run it on. It also wouldn't likely sell very well at all, very few true fallen flags do (Chessie, SP, ATSF, BN and Conrail being the only real exceptions)

[dkingsburg]

Back in the 70's I Railfanned theNH, B&M, LV, EL, D&H Every Weekend and Vacations Too. I Miss those Classy Systems where the Customer Actually Came First When it came to Service.
Now the Shareholders are the Most Important Customer. The Heck with Customers!
DaveK

[dkingsburg]

Thankyou,
Got them and I'm Working on the EL & PRR Units now.
DaveK

[wwhall]

I'm going to state an opinion that may be grossly unpopular with some repainters and others, but I don't think that I'm alone: I think that it is a shame that repainters invest a lot of time and talent repainting old "Fred Flintstone wheel" models that are well past their prime. This is not a criticism of Danny Beck or other creators of the early to mid-MSTS era. For their time, their models were built to a high standard. I purchased many of them back then. But the graphic capabilities of the sims have advanced greatly since then. Even well-repainted, those older models just don't look that great when run side-by-side with the many very fine newer offerings out there. The paint can't fix what is underneath it in the model. I recognize that the older models are free and some of the newer ones aren't, which is undoubtedly why they appeal to some repainters. But, I, for one, download very few of them. So, if producing a popular repaint is the goal of the repainter, using outdated models is probably not the way to get there. I've probably purged over 1,000+ old, outdated models from my sim in the last several years, including all of the original MSTS rolling stock, and a whole lot of stuff built before 2008. Even after all of that, I have somewhere around 12,000 pieces of rolling stock.

[geepster775]

'm going to state an opinion that may be grossly unpopular with some repainters and others, but I don't think that I'm alone

*Can Confirm*

[dfalshaw]

wwhall

At the risk of offending you, I can't agree 100% with your argument against "Fred Flintstone wheels". I do a great deal of repainting to the point where almost everything I run is one of my repaints. But I'm not so good an artist that I can make repaints of high enough quality to upload here. I need to start with blank textures or a layered paint kit. But I can't make them to save my soul. So I go with what's available. The wheel shape does not even factor in to it when your POV is the cab. Nor is it an issue when using the track side camera views. It really doesn't take much speed for the wheels to look round. That you have a preference for better shapes for the wheels is fine...for you. It can become somewhat bothersome for someone like me.

Further, I simply do not have the financial resources to trot off to trainsimulations every time I get a hankering to paint something up. Yup, there are newer models out there with better wheel shapes, many of which are freeware, but there are no blank textures or paint kits available as a starting point. And it is not possible to paint what I don't have or can't afford.

Here's a thought. If wheel shapes bother you so much, make some models, blank textures, or paint kits for the models of which you approve.

It is my humble opinion that your campaign against wheel shapes is something of a tempest in a tea pot. My opinion only. You do you. But perhaps, as a part of your campaign, you could do something toward solving the problem.

[eric]

Well, I don't think the wheels are really the focus here - Flintstones wheels are just more of a term that some people have taken to using for models built prior to 2010 when poly counts really made a difference with performance.

Using higher detail models for repaints is something I'd encourage, but the previous post about blanks is definitely a valid point.

Not everyone can buy every piece of payware, and even fewer of us can just 'learn Blender' to find the models that give us enjoyment.

[CSRX]

Plus, blanks for the newer models are very rare to find. I got lucky and managed to blank out the MRL GP40-2 model, but other than that, I'm still waiting for proper blanks for the CN Ruel Sub GP40-2W's and what not so I can actually paint more options.

Flintstone wheels will still be a thing from me, and I absolutely do not care if that means someone isn't going to use my work despite the time and effort I put into it. Oh well. Your loss, not mine, as much as that sounds like a a-hole thing to say... Shrugs.

I will say, I am so sick and tired of seeing this every single time someone asks for a repaint or does a repaint. Be happy people even still repaint for such an old and dated program. We are lucky we even still have guys like TS, BLW/ZT, TT/TMT, and the many freeware guys still around including myself, Bernard, and a few others still slinging out awesome repaints.

[R. Steele]

As a descendant of Mr. Flintstone I am offended by this totally untruthful reference to so-called flintstone wheels. As anyone with a whit of sense can see, Fred's wheels were perfectly round cylinders...of the highest quality obtainable for the times. Representatives of Fred's estate would hope that those dodgy weak-minded individuals that continue to spread these scurrilous untruths will immediately cease and desist.

[yellowdog]

I'm confused by the "need" for blanks. It seems like if a person has the ability to reskin, they have the ability to create a blank? Or am I missing something obvious? I guess I also don't regularly work from blanks.

[CSRX]

I'm confused by the "need" for blanks. It seems like if a person has the ability to reskin, they have the ability to create a blank? Or am I missing something obvious? I guess I also don't regularly work from blanks.

Having a blank texture helps tremendously versus trying to erase and match as needed a painted locomotive, much like the CN GP40-2W or SD40 fleet from the CN Ruel Sub Set with the black and white textures that are a massive PITA to adjust and get them to match without looking super funky. I have always worked with blank textures as much as possible, having something grey scaled is much more desirable, but, maybe I am just simply not skilled enough......