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  • SCL-A-Line
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 273
    • NE Ohio

    #31
    Originally posted by SurvivorSean
    Even Bakersfield Sub that popped up for me lately had much better foilage which is realistic as you are going to see from the cab as you move away from the desert.

    I went through all my ideas that I've posted for Run8 and I was surprised how many have been implemented. There is of course a more recent one I really hope gets implemented at some point and that is AI switching. In fact if it was part of a V4 I would pay for it just like I did for V3 and Otto's imperfections (they'll get it worked out and impoved as they are trying). I haven't been in Run8 much lately but I'm trying something different again to see if Northern CA works.

    I really want to take advantage of some of these routes. Fitzgerald from what I've seen from Jason's videos is a work of art. The reason why I haven't purchasd it yet is because it's become a much bigger region. The bigger the region the tougher it is to simulate properly without the numbers on your server.

    Hopefully I can get enough interest in Northern CA on my server that goes up and down at various times. If not I'll hope and wait for Run8 to release AI switching while trying some projects of my own.

    Thanks

    Sean
    and its only going to get bigger
    Jason Webb
    Run8 Studios/HyRail Simulations
    https://www.hyrailsimulations.net

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    • SCL-A-Line
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 273
      • NE Ohio

      #32
      Originally posted by NorthernWarrior
      Point taken about the trees, I shan't mention it again . Just a shame there wasn't a manual to explain that to those unfamiliar with the area.

      As I said, enjoying the route overall - the gradients are a nice challenge but without the long grind of the western routes.

      And hopefully Hyrail and R8 can sort out the AIDS issues.
      Otto should work in Most Situations, there are a few points that need to be taken into consideration.

      1. one of the premade DM sessions had some issues, unfortunately I missed it when the installer was built, we put those out as a general template, as we don't have "Activities"

      2. if you Run ANY Symbol not in the TrainRouting.xml OTTO will not work, Otto has to know where to send these Symbols
      I suggest Using https://symboleditor.highballrun8.com/ so you don't get syntax errors which will mess up Otto as well.

      3. Too Many trains on a given Route will cause issues, if Otto has no options to send or pass a train he will not route, General rule is at most
      5 trains running on the A Line at any one time, maybe 6-10 on Fitzgerald.

      4. Train Length is critical, These are NOT PSR Routes and as such Running over 7000' will cause issues.

      5. for Otto to route into Rice Yard Inbound he needs tracks, the receiving yard will fill up over time so you can either Hump or Delete to relive the pressure
      if the receiving yard is full you will get back ups just like real life
      Jason Webb
      Run8 Studios/HyRail Simulations
      https://www.hyrailsimulations.net

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      • NorthernWarrior
        5000 Post Veteran

        • Apr 2007
        • 6638
        • Swindon, England

        #33
        Thanks Jason. As I mentioned on your FB page last night I'm still having issues getting the industry locations to show up.

        Seems there has been a bit of confusion over which order things should be installed on, which is why Run 8 desperately needs some sort of streamlined system to minimize the hassle for end users (and I don't necessarily mean Steam... ). Failing that, with all due respect, a manual or pdf sheet with the route that clearly details the steps to be taken. Shouldn't really have to rely on forumk posts here, at The Depot or on FB to get a £35 product up and running.

        Anyway, what I'm doing at the moment is running Update 6, the Fitz installer then the SE update again. After that I'll delete any residual industry files, of which just checking there appear to be 4 in the SE region folder - 3-route.ind, config.ind, Fitzgeraldconfig.ind and a WaycrossConfig.ind . I suspect having four competing files is causing the issues. I'll then run the 3 route from within the game menu and see what happens.

        Edit: Well renaming the IndustryConfiguration.xml to Ind...old, suppressing all but the 3-route.ind then running it again seems to have propagated the names. But what do I do with the xml file, as it hasn't created a new one? I've reinstated it at the moment but this is a very grey area.

        Edit 2:
        Reinstating the IndustryConfiguration.xml has now caused all the labels to disappear again.

        This is all very confusing.

        Think I'm off to play some Doom or Mass Effect...
        Last edited by NorthernWarrior; 02-26-2023, 12:36.
        Vern.

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        • SCL-A-Line
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 273
          • NE Ohio

          #34
          delete the XML File that is a version 1 file and not needed

          we actually do have a good help resource - www.run8support.com - it also has a good FAQ section

          The issue with the install order is generally it shouldn't matter, that is my fault, II had some Scenery tiles for the A Line end up in the Fitz installer, I will be correcting that Within the Next month with a newer Southeast region Installer that will greatly streamline the process and fix these issues

          have you looked in the user guide folder in the main run8 installer this folder also opens

          ConfiguringAndUsingIndustryTracks.pdf

          and many other PDF's
          Last edited by SCL-A-Line; 02-26-2023, 13:15.
          Jason Webb
          Run8 Studios/HyRail Simulations
          https://www.hyrailsimulations.net

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          • NorthernWarrior
            5000 Post Veteran

            • Apr 2007
            • 6638
            • Swindon, England

            #35
            Thanks Jason, appreciated - i shall nuke the xml file from existence and sorry for whinging (a bit!).
            Vern.

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            • NorthernWarrior
              5000 Post Veteran

              • Apr 2007
              • 6638
              • Swindon, England

              #36
              Ha! The game and route extracted its vengeance on me... Stopped short of a red signal so gave it the beans before the brakes had fully released and got 10 broken couplers! Well it gave me something to do waiting for an opposing train to arrive and clear the single line.
              Vern.

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              • SCL-A-Line
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 273
                • NE Ohio

                #37
                Originally posted by NorthernWarrior
                Ha! The game and route extracted its vengeance on me... Stopped short of a red signal so gave it the beans before the brakes had fully released and got 10 broken couplers! Well it gave me something to do waiting for an opposing train to arrive and clear the single line.
                oh i did forget to mention this route is a knuckle buster
                Jason Webb
                Run8 Studios/HyRail Simulations
                https://www.hyrailsimulations.net

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                • NorthernWarrior
                  5000 Post Veteran

                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6638
                  • Swindon, England

                  #38
                  Originally posted by SCL-A-Line
                  oh i did forget to mention this route is a knuckle buster
                  Vern.

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                  • haverfordwest
                    5000 Post Veteran

                    • May 2010
                    • 5248
                    • Johnston, S.W.WALES
                    • General

                    #39
                    Does this route merge with any others on the east coast ?

                    Mike.
                    Yma O Hyd

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                    • dsflyer
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 55
                      • Somewhere near the BNSF Stockton sub

                      #40
                      It merges with Waycross
                      David
                      Highball Run 8 - Operations Team
                      http://www.Highballrun8.com
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                      • haverfordwest
                        5000 Post Veteran

                        • May 2010
                        • 5248
                        • Johnston, S.W.WALES
                        • General

                        #41
                        Only Waycross, does Waycross connect to any other routes ?

                        Thanks very much David.

                        EDIT: Just looked at the Hyrail site. So does Fitz, Waycross and the A line form a continuous route ?

                        Mike.
                        Last edited by haverfordwest; 03-01-2023, 07:24.
                        Yma O Hyd

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                        • NorthernWarrior
                          5000 Post Veteran

                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6638
                          • Swindon, England

                          #42
                          Yes it does Mike. I've just crossed from the Fitz onto Waycross and then heading off into the A Line.
                          Vern.

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                          • haverfordwest
                            5000 Post Veteran

                            • May 2010
                            • 5248
                            • Johnston, S.W.WALES
                            • General

                            #43
                            Thank you Vern, will have a ponder about buying them. In regards my financial situation.

                            Thanks very much buddy.

                            Mike.
                            Yma O Hyd

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                            • SCL-A-Line
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 273
                              • NE Ohio

                              #44
                              when you have all 3 routes you can run seamlessly across all 3 if they are all loaded at the same time
                              Jason Webb
                              Run8 Studios/HyRail Simulations
                              https://www.hyrailsimulations.net

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                              • TrainSimJack
                                Senior Member

                                • Jul 2022
                                • 495

                                #45
                                Guys, I have to say this new Fitz route is fantastic.

                                Operationally, it's locals offer something different from UP-Roseville or the BNSF routes.

                                The locals just have a different 'feel' to them, as does the whole route - It's flat, yet it's got plenty of gentle hills. It's green. I am happy when I spend time here. It puts me in a good mood.

                                It's got TONS of areas that offer something to look at, beyond seeing trees right up against the tracks. there are farms, towns, industries, and best of all tons of unique, interesting small/medium sized businesses.

                                Many industries have new models - and as far as I can tell, many are only used a single time on the route - And boy does this make a difference - not only is it nicer to look at, but it's easier to get your bearings because there are unique things all over the place.

                                It is not just a huge improvement over past SouthEast CSX routes, it is a huge improvement over anything Run8 has ever put out.

                                Everyone should own this one.

                                - Jack

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