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    #16
    Originally posted by NorthernWarrior View Post
    The one thing that does puzzle me, is are Run 8 doing this with or without the agreement of the freight railroads, or are they just better at negotiating the licensing and permissions than DTG? Who claim the big railroads have slammed the door as regards access to pretty much anything for research.
    I think it may have to do with 'image'. Railroads are not pleased when morons make train crash/train wreck videos that show branded locomotives and rolling stock tumbling all over etc-- and DTG's product is one that allow(ed) those idiots to make such video and show them on YouBoob and DTG did nothing to disable the ability to derail and crash. That said, I'm unsurprised when DTG can't licence or have the licence discontinued. At least in Run 8 derailments aren't a graphical thing although boneheads will try. I recall one such on Sean's server where the player 'crashed' into a car stuck at a crossing then left the game leaving a mess for those of us playing normally to clean up. Sigh.
    Avidly simming on the rails:
    Currently operating Run 8 and TSW4

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      #17
      Thanks Mike, was toying with getting the Modesto section but if it is just the same old graphics, then sorry if it offends anyone not worth £35 after taking currency fees into account. I know it’s not the be all and end all where Run 8 is concerned but they really need to update the graphics engine to deliver something that’s not even as pretty as early MSTS. I’ll probably get tarred and feathered for saying that, but feel it’s valid criticism when being asked to pay that much and bearing in mind they never have any sort of sale.
      Vern.

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        #18
        I always thought that forums were about opinions and discussion, Vern. I don't see any problem with expressing an opinion on something that is fact.

        Even DTG do not sell routes without loco's and stock, at those prices. Plus it's not as if we rubbish R8 and have never supported it.

        Mike.
        Yma O Hyd

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          #19
          Lots of new stuff on Modesto including bridges, industrial buildings, vegetation, barns, rice fields, etc. The UP from Fresno to Modesto is stunning. It doesn't help anyone when someone provides feedback WITHOUT BUYING THE ROUTE.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Brad3816 View Post
            ....It doesn't help anyone when someone provides feedback WITHOUT BUYING THE ROUTE.
            I think you're missing the point, Brad, which in this case is that the graphics are the same, irrespective of the "newness" of the route provided.
            I haven't bought it, and have no intention of doing so, simply because I agree with Vern's comments.
            The graphic's engine needs updating.

            IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

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              #21
              New assets are of course always welcome but they are still running in a landscape with 2D trees reminiscent of pre MSTS. Look we all love Run 8 and what it can do, but that doesn’t mean to say there isn’t significant room for improvement. At some point I’ll probably see if Schaunpowaz (sp) has bought the route and done an overview/review of it at which point I’ll make a decision whether it’s worth parting with £35.
              Vern.

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                #22
                He has bought the route Vern, there is a review of the route, then a mainline run on the new route and last night, he posted another video with operations on the MT area, whatever that is.

                I have purchased the route and it's the same old same old, as far as vegetation is concerned. Absolutely mental in 2024, even TSC which is a lot older. Holds up better graphically. I paid my money so i get to give an opinion.

                Mike.
                Yma O Hyd

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                  #23






                  Mike.
                  Yma O Hyd

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by haverfordwest View Post
                    He has bought the route Vern, there is a review of the route, then a mainline run on the new route and last night, he posted another video with operations on the MT area, whatever that is.

                    I have purchased the route and it's the same old same old, as far as vegetation is concerned. Absolutely mental in 2024, even TSC which is a lot older. Holds up better graphically. I paid my money so i get to give an opinion.

                    Mike.
                    Thanks Mike. I’ll wait for a sale then… oh hang on.

                    Vern.

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                      #25
                      Hahahahahaha, bad boy Vernon 🤣🤣🤣.

                      Mike.
                      Yma O Hyd

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                        #26
                        I bought the DLC, have run it a few times now, and it's decent. It's the tired 2D vegetation at trackside that needs to be replaced by something post-1986. I'm not suggesting the devs invest in SpeedTree but with the better lighting modelling in the sim that was brought in with v.2 (or was it just in v3?) the ancient X or + veg looks pretty silly. Just my opinion of course.
                        Avidly simming on the rails:
                        Currently operating Run 8 and TSW4

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Leaf85 View Post
                          I bought the DLC, have run it a few times now, and it's decent. It's the tired 2D vegetation at trackside that needs to be replaced by something post-1986. I'm not suggesting the devs invest in SpeedTree but with the better lighting modelling in the sim that was brought in with v.2 (or was it just in v3?) the ancient X or + veg looks pretty silly. Just my opinion of course.
                          Veg also needs to be a more natural looking colour and they definitely need better range and more subtle terrain textures, including bump mapping and procedural foliage for grass, scrub etc.
                          Vern.

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