Hornby TT 120 Model Railway

[haverfordwest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biiFX3KS6GM

https://uk.hornby.com/hornbytt120

I can deffo see me getting into this and even dumping the pc.

I had a lot of the original Triang Railways TT (table top) stuff.

Which like 00 was actually incorrectly gauged.

This new TT will be in gauge, with reference to European and US TT addons and sets.

Cheaper than 00\H0 gauge as well, so a more attractive proposition for me.

Already joined the TT club for free, for first 12 months.

Mike.

[NorthernWarrior]

Interesting but the prices still a bit eye watering!

[haverfordwest]

With me Vern, this old carthorse of a pc is well passed it's sell by date.

So with pc upgrade needed, i am looking at loads of money either way.

Top end gaming components, to last me until the grim reaper calls. Will cost me bags of money.

Even keeping my present monitor and tower. Might as well have something tangible to show for it instead.

Anyway this is all next year, only two sets coming at the end of 2022.

I could be 6ft under by then.

Mike.

[seagoon]

....the prices still a bit eye watering!

Holy cow!!
The exchange rate right now makes those prices look like a small fortune; by the time the globe goes into recession next year (or before) they'll cost a large fortune!

I was into N-Scale for years (1977 - 1987) and had a reasonable layout on a bench in the garage.
No way in this wide world could I ever afford to go back to model trains, even if I wanted to. The cost would be far, far greater than updating a computer every few years!

Good luck, Mike......don't get caught robbing the bank!

[WesternDivision]

A bold move by Hornby given the economic situation the world is heading for, but no doubt several years in the planning and developing stage working in conjunction with Peco, so I hope it proves successful for both company's.
Interesting that Peco announced the track,signals and a wagon back in June.

Announcement from PECO & the NEW TT:120 Track & Accessories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J5L86SxVs0

Any one looking to get back in the hobby who does not have huge space might find this scale very tempting. Certainly the Peco TT track looks okay but the running quality of the locomotives and rolling stock is going to be judged against the advancements in the last few years in 00 gauge and whats readily available in that gauge. I have invested too much in British 00 gauge and American N gauge equipment in the last few years to even consider looking at Hornbys new TT gauge. I don't have much space (12 ft Wall) but I will be building a 1960"s British layout based on Hornby's magazines Switching layout "Operation Build it " that first appeared in their magazine (October 2013) but will be setting the layout in a suburban branch industrial setting.

The Hornby Magazine Operation Build It layout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNCkbjLSPqU

Switching layouts can keep you plenty busy for years with building and painting etc and dont need be insanely expensive regardless of your chosen gauge size and the British have been the masters of small swithing layouts and micro layouts with some of these modelers preferring this style of layout over bigger ones. As much as I love train simming, I still need to to do something creative with my hands and as Mike mentioned above "have something tangible to show" for all the time spent in this hobby which model railways can do.

Cheers
James

[seagoon]

I'm going to be an utter pedant here (to paraphrase a statement by David Mitchell on WILTY), but let's get it right; you are talking about scale....not gauge.
The correct term, therefore, is "TT scale"....not "TT gauge".

Scale is the relationship between model size and full-size, and each scale (N, HO, OO, O, G....etc) is in proportion to the full-size item.
But each scale can model different gauges.
For example, you could have a slate-mining layout in N-scale but the gauge could represent narrow gauge. The models and buildings and figures are to scale, but in this setting the gauge of the track represents narrow-gauge, not standard gauge and not broad gauge.

From the images I've seen, it appears obvious that the new Hornby TT scale locos and rolling stock will be running on standard-gauge track.

Here endeth the lesson.

[NorthernWarrior]

Cost aside, I think it could be useful for those who don't have the space for a HO/OO layout but find N Gauge a bit too small and fiddly.

[WesternDivision]

Originally Posted by seagoon

The correct term, therefore, is "TT scale"....not "TT gauge".

Bruce! You should be working for the manufactures where you can throw around la-di-da words like "scale" to describe the measurement of a model and the corresponding measurement of the real actual object. The rest of us in the model railway hobby and even some shop owners of well established model railways stores we will just stick to words like "gauge" to describe the scale we are modelling in .

https://railsofsheffield.com/blogs/news/tt-120-gauge

[seagoon]

.....The rest of us in the model railway hobby and even some shop owners of well established model railways stores we will just stick to words like "gauge" to describe the scale we are modelling in .

But it's incorrect terminology and I was trained (electrical engineering) to use the correct terms where possible......thus avoiding confusion.
It's just stuck with me through life and, as I prefaced my post, in this case I am being pedantic.

In regard to model trains, I was also strongly advised by the hobby-shop bloke where I bought my model railway stuff, to always refer to the different sizes as scale, and not gauge.

[seagoon]

.....The rest of us in the model railway hobby ...

You are ignoring the fact that I was also involved in the hobby.

[WesternDivision]

Originally Posted by seagoon

In regard to model trains, I was also strongly advised by the hobby-shop bloke where I bought my model railway stuff, to always refer to the different sizes as scale, and not gauge.

It really doesn't matter Bruce whether you use scale or gauge to describe what size you are modelling, model railroaders will use both. Obviously the guy at the hobby store never sold you a model railway ruler because some of them are stamped with gauge first followed by scale or mm to foot measurement.

https://www.scalerulers.com/product/...y-scale-ruler/

and others are stamped by scale.

https://peco-uk.com/products/metal-rule

Interestingly Bruce I will usually say N Scale and not N gauge because when looking at American layouts it's nearly always N scale, but I always refer to my British railway models as OO gauge and not OO scale.

Cheers

[haverfordwest]

We use both in UK, scale and gauge. So can you girls stop bikkering, sometimes i wonder why i bother.

[NorthernWarrior]

We use both in UK, scale and gauge. So can you girls stop bikkering, sometimes i wonder why i bother.

Agree Mike, one occasion where a bit of mod tidying wouldn't come amiss.
Good luck if you decide to go ahead, it would be cool to share some images of your layout if it gets that far.

[haverfordwest]

I was only joking Vern. If i don't joke about everything life gets a bit to heavy buddy.

I will deffo go ahead next year when TT really takes off. The two available sets due this December are not really my thing.

Both LNER loco's and the pullman cars do not interest me. I might be tempted to get the A4 and MK1's, just to dip my toe in the water and see what i think of the scale and quality overall, Vern. In the long term, i would be pre-disposed more towards Green and Blue era diesels. There is a 37 and a 47 coming sometime, no news of any WR hydraulics though. But it is early days, so i need to be patient.

Layout to me will be a baseboard and track, plus buildings buddy. Never been much good at scenery, i'm afraid. Even with the train games. But if i last the course, piccies will be provided.

Mike.

[seagoon]

We use both in UK, scale and gauge. So can you girls stop bikkering, sometimes i wonder why i bother.

Sorry.
I'll go and stand in the corner for a while.