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My motto: free guns for everyone! Especially for all the mental defectives and nut cases!
Funny how all the folks who always recite the second amendment forget to think about the "a well regulated Militia, being necessary" part...
oh, and a P.S.: cf. the Virginia Declaration of Rights: "XIII That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, TRAINED TO ARMS [my emphasis],...
My motto: free guns for everyone! Especially for all the mental defectives and nut cases!
Funny how all the folks who always recite the second amendment forget to think about the "a well regulated Militia, being necessary" part...
oh, and a P.S.: cf. the Virginia Declaration of Rights: "XIII That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, TRAINED TO ARMS [my emphasis],...
Who said "free guns for everyone"??? No one in here said that..
As for the "Well Regulated" yes, I DO, practice regularly.
And besides that, the US Constitution, super seeds most if not all state documents..and for the sake of argument, here is the US LEGAL definition of the Militia..
311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
If you chose to debate with ME, on this subject, be forewarned, I have helped write debates on this issue, for state delegates and state senators, these arguments have been used on the floor of the Virginia Legislature....and won.
I testified at the Colorado Senate State Affairs Committe against an assault rifle ban back in the 80's, I also worked with Gun Owners Association of Colorado, and believe it or not, Soldier of Fortune magazine against gun control efforts.
An armed society is a polite society.
Just for grins, anyone want me to post what happened in Austrailia when they banned all private ownership of firearms?
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
IN SHORT....Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Now, PLEASE...List the successes of Gun Control....
Lets talk about the MASSIVE success they have had in Chicago, where we learned today, that the shooter up their, jumped thru ALL the hoops, got a FOID card, waited the waiting period, and STILL committed a massacre... LOL waiting period!!! I have a closet full of firearms, and a gun case in my bedroom as well.....Why should I, have a cooling off period, if I decide to buy, ANOTHER gun?? If someone decided to go on a rampage, is that 5 day waiting period going to stop ANYONE? Exspeshaly someone that already OWNS a gun? WHAT BUFFOONS!!!
Lets talk about all the "gun free zones" that seem to be massacre magnets..
Lets talk about the wonderful success they have had in Washington DC with their near total gun ban.
Lets also talk about the intelligence level of most gun control supporters, who's glaring defects in intellectual honesty is all over practically EVERY news report, and interview they give...
And no matter what happens, the gun control "advocates" have only one solution to solve the problem...MORE OF THE SAME...LOL even after it fails, they still have cajones to "demand" more...
Like Albert Einstein said;
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
Please...lets talk...I am feeling hungry tonight.....
Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."
Dr. John R. Lott, Jr., "Gun laws don't reduce crime," USA Today (May 9, 2002).
Of course, the whole argument could become moot soon, if SCOTUS finds that the 2nd Amendment actually means what it says:
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Does this apply to groups such as the MinuteMen, or other private groups describing themselves as militias?
Read the law CAREFULLY, it defines the militia in part (A)
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard
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There is the definition, of the militia., you skipped ahead to the CLASSES of militia.
There is also the quite legitimate argument that one doesn't have anything to do with the other. In other words, "The right of the People to Bear Arms" supports the militia, however, the militia is not a prerequisite to the right to bear arms. Personally, I can't see why anyone would possibly want to argue for gun control laws when it's obvious they don't work. BTW, the shooting that started this very thread was a violation of a "gun-free" zone law. I guess if there were another law, or two, or three, the guy woudn't have wanted to violate, like, more laws than just one!
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