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**rpicardi1** · 02-21-2008, 07:39

Do Guns Commit Crimes!

Here is a web site with a web cam where you can see for yourself if this assault weapon, complete with bayonet, decided to do a mass shooting or not. http://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/

"When Guns are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Guns."

"An Armed Society Is A Polite Society."

The police cannot protect you from the criminal element bent on doing you great bodily harm. They can only respond to pick up the pieces afterwards.

**Andy J** · 02-21-2008, 11:37

Originally posted by msavianney View Post

Do it! I'm very happy with mine!

Lee Enfield SMLE and Mauser K98k compared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5tyA645k4k

A visual comparison of a 1941 Lee Enfield No1 MkIII* SMLE and a Mauser K98k. Different views are shown to compare and contrast these rifles, which represent ...

Cheers,
Matt

Man o MAN! What a Enfield Collection!!

I have been trying to find a "vet bring back" K98k for YEARS I am going to give up on that for a while, seems like everyone that I find, they either want thousands of dollars for it, or it has been "butchard" beyond recognition...I nearly bought a nice K98k that had been sportized...The price was a bit high, but underneath the scope mounts and such, was "SS" markings....

Nearly bought it out of pity...

I decided just to pick up a "Russian Capture" K98k with all the markings still intact, and just be happy with it. I am still trying to find a "proper" Lithgow bayonet. for my Lithgow SMLE.

In my enfield collection, I only have a few of them, but the big missing links from my collection is a Jungle carbine, and a "US Property" Savage made rifle

I made a post back over a month ago, showing a few of the pieces in my collection. I am due to make another posting soon! Here is a link to that thread.

Recent Arsenal additions - TrainSim.Com

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?t=266534

Hey friends, as most of ya'll know I collect historical firearms, I have added some really significant arms to my collection as of late! First off, is a post war, German Walther P38 pistol, complete with all of its "Bundeswehr" markings. This version is called the P1 This example, was built in 1981, rearsenaled in

**rpicardi1** · 02-21-2008, 12:39

"And, you won't be allowed to use them to defend yourself from the well armed criminals who have never obeyed any gun control law out there. Such is the case already in the UK where criminals routinely sue homeowners that attempted to protect their lives and property from such scum."

Guess what! It's now even worse in the Nanny State of the UK where law abiding citizens have lost all rights to defend themselves thanks to their liberal lawmakers.

A shopkeeper could be charged with murder after defending himself against an armed robber who was killed by his own knife, police said yesterday.
Kilroe, wearing a hooded top, appeared at the driver's window and smashed it with the butt of his knife. He then put his arms through the broken window and attacked Mr Singh, demanding his takings.
The shopkeeper fought back and during the tussle - said to have lasted several minutes - Kilroe died from a single stab wound. His knife was recovered at the scene.
Police found Mr Singh by his Ford Focus nursing knife wounds to his back and neck. Despite his injuries, he was detained at the scene on suspicion of murder. Then, after being treated in hospital, he was questioned for several hours.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/21/ncrime121.xml

This is complete and total insanity on the part of the authorities and the liberal lawmakers. How much longer before the UK self destructs with millions of lives lost as a result of being nice to the criminals?

**Paul1953** · 02-21-2008, 17:12

Time to re-open another Star Chamber.

**Gixxer86g** · 02-21-2008, 19:34

That's scary stuff,Ron.It reminds me of a Married With Children episode where Al Bundy was sued by the home invader he beat up.The injuries he sustained from the beating kept the thief from being able to do his job....stealing.

I wonder if the liberal way will eventually include the rights of germs to invade our bodies,or the rights of cockroaches and mice to invade our kitchen cabinets?

It seems to me the human race is going the way of the dinosaurs.And right now we're at the end of the late Cretaceous period,except we're creating our own destruction.We're creating our own comet,so to speak.

**rpicardi1** · 02-21-2008, 21:15

I wonder if the liberal way will eventually include the rights of germs to invade our bodies,or the rights of cockroaches and mice to invade our kitchen cabinets?

It took a while to find this article published in 1998, author unknown.

It was the year meat and animal by-products surpassed cocaine as South America's No. 1 export. The year Russia had a trade surplus with the U.S. The year that SNARL. (Super Natural Animal Rights Lobby) made more campaign contributions than the NRA, the NEA and the dairy lobbies combined!
It was the year that marked the 12th anniversary of the NARA (National Animal Rights Act).
NARA stated that animals had the right to exist without interference, enslavement or manipulation from humans, "Animal" was defined as that class of living creatures from Amoeba to Zebra. Since it was shown that animals, espically domesticated ones, had been deprived of a "normal evolutionary opportunity," Congress allowed them special privileges (an affirmative action proviso) They had the right to life. liberty and welfare, yet bore no responsibility for their actions.
During the first 12 years, NARA was challenged frequently in court. but judges held true to the intent of legislation. That legislation was written with the underlying premise that "An elephant is a baby is a rat is a bug." All were declared equal under the law.
On the day NARA was signed into law by President Al Gore, SNARL! volunteers released all domestic livestock, zoo animals, condo pets, laboratory animals, backyard horses, circus captives, game preserve inhabitants, dog kennel dwellers and aviary prisoners. According to the law, every animal was guaranteed it's liberty. Each had the right to go where it pleased.
Although predators had a heyday, death loss to depredation was small compared to the carnage on the highways. This continuing slaughter led to the most significant and far-reaching stepchild of the NARA, passage of the Anti-Motor Vehicle Act, which banned all self-propelled vehicles.
Without trucks, the handling and treatment of large animals that had been injured posed major problems. Transportation of crippled, hurt horses, cattle and hogs was impossible due to the Anti-Motor Vehicle Act: It was also illegal to use a horse as a beast of burden (Anti-Carriage and Cowboy Act). so the sick and injured beasts were treated where they lay. by veterinarian conscripted into public service.
Disposal of carcasses which littered highways, lawns, woods and sidewalks became a moot point, since the Predator Protection Act prohibited any interference with coyotes, buzzards and domestic cats engaged in the normal behavior of eating carrion.
Initially, SNARL! volunteers were allowed to drag carcass remains out of their front yards until it was pointed out that the movement infringed on the rights of bone beetles and blowfly larvae (The Maggot Protection Act).

Part II (Some 12 years following passage of the National Animal Rights Act.)

Dogs formed in packs and roamed city and countryside alike, preying on freed domestic livestock, the occasional horse or the unlucky cat.
Vigilante groups soon formed to protect children from the marauding predators.
The infamous Struthers Trial established the rights of reptiles (represented by the ACLU). Ms. Potential threat to protozoa and violated the Protozoan and One-Celled Animal Act,
Eventually , the Anti-Antibiotics Bill was passed. Black market pharmaceuticals soon dwarfed the illegal narcotics trade as medical doctors tried in vain to control the spiraling circle of disease and death.
Crop production decreased at alarming rates as insects multiplied and ate, unhindered. Mechanized farming as well as draft horses, were prohibited. Wheat, corn, fruit, potatoes, rice, cotton, cabbage and virtually all other crops were planted, weeded and harvested by hand. The U.S. no longer attracted immigrants, so farm labor was impossible to find. The U.S. began importing food from Third World countries, who looked upon NARA as a windfall. Mexico and Korea were the two biggest contributors to SNARL!'s political action committee. Initially, animal rights enforcers spent most of their time in former livestock-producing areas, seeking violators.
But soon they were driven back to the safety in numbers of the cities and suburbs, They had a better chance of survival in a herd of activists than alone on a country road, facing a pack of dogs or other predators.
The self-sufficient soon got fed up and migrated to Mexico and Canada to work in the fields. They were not missed.

Conclusion. Imagine the U.S. 12 years after passage of the NARA. Any animal (defined as protozoa to primate, excluding humans) has the right to exist without the interference, enslavement or manipulation of man. No impediment may be put in place to bar the natural movement of animals. This includes screen doors, privacy fences, cages, aquariums or hot wires.
No substance or weapon may be sold whose purpose can be construed to be directly intended for the death of an animal. This includes antibiotics, fly swatters, insecticides, flea collars, bug zappers. D-Con. pesticides, hunting rifles or shotguns.
Saturday Night Specials and automatic weapons are exempt, since their primary purpose is to kill humans.
The U.S. has become a vast experiment that the rest of the World is watching-some incredulously, some greedily.
If it were not for the concrete, glass and steel structures built by modern man prior to the passage of NARA, America would have a prehistoric aura. Although man is part of the ecosystem, he is essentially removed to hi rise buildings above the third floor. They travel in groups for safety's sake. The elderly, the handicapped and children often fall prey to the fearless predators . It is not uncommon to see a baby calf playing on a schoolground, a black bear begging on the street or hogs rummaging through three months' accumulation of garbage,
Formerly "domestic" cattle, horses, sheep and pigs roam city parks, alleys, malls, urban lawns, side street, small country gardens, plains and mountains. They are stalked by large bands of feral dogs, coyotes, rats and swarms of insects,
Between parasites, disease and deprivation, a natural balance is being struck. lt is a world that existed in prehistory, Not necessarily a bad world, but a dangerous place for an unarmed bipedal primate like man.

Now, there is a posting limit!

**rpicardi1** · 02-21-2008, 21:19

Rest of the post. This was for real back in 2000 on the loony Left Coast;

LOS ANGELES - Steven Wise has represented a dolphin in court, got vicious dogs off death row and was the first person to teach an animal rights course at a U.S. law school.

But then he realized that it wasn't enough to save the lives of a few hundred dogs, an occasional deer, or the odd ape. So he set about the ambitious task of trying to change the law so that entire species - notably dolphins, chimpanzees and gorillas - could be granted basic legal rights.
Wise is not a loony liberal with a menagerie of chickens, chimps and cats liberated from fates worse than death in some battery farm, zoo or medical research laboratory - although he sees such facilities as places of slavery and torture.
He regards as "entirely silly" the widely ridiculed refusal by the Washington Zoo to release the medical records of a dead giraffe on the grounds it would violate the giraffe's privacy rights.
Wise moreover is "not really a be-kind-to-animals sort of person", but a suit-wearing lawyer and Harvard professor whose arguments are based on the principles of justice and respect.
"It's not really a matter of trying to gain rights for nonhuman animals because I love them, but because I respect them and I believe others should respect them as well.
"My purpose is ... to take the values and principles that lie at the center of our system of justice and point out that they are applicable not only to human beings, but to some nonhuman beings as well," Wise told Reuters in an interview.
FREEDOM AT LAST
In "Drawing the Line," Wise presses the legal and scientific case for extending basic rights of freedom from slavery and torture to chimpanzees, orangutans, gorillas and Atlantic bottle-nosed dolphins.
Basing his arguments on well-documented studies of their mental powers, emotional bonds, social skills, language and self-awareness, Wise says there is also increasing evidence to suggest that African elephants, African Gray parrots, honeybees and dogs may merit such legal rights.
In an age when it would be unthinkable to use newborn human babies, the profoundly senile, or the insane for biomedical research or display them for public entertainment, Wise asks why dolphins, chimps or elephants - some of whom are more sophisticated than tiny infants - should have to endure such indignities.
"There are some nonhuman animals who obviously have such complex minds and such strong personalities that they are indeed like our children, and they deserve to be treated with respect," said Wise, who has four-year old twins.
Animals are currently regarded under most Western law as property. But granting these eight species personhood would mean: "You could not use them in any way that you could not use my 4-year-old son. You couldn't eat them, kidnap them off the street and put them in a cage, do biomedical research on them, or exhibit them for profit in a zoo."
As if Wise's presentation of the scientific evidence was not enough, he uses the controversial analogy of the human slave trade to press home the ethical case.
"Human slavery was made possible by the rule that humans could be legal things, a concept that seems so wrong today but which was woven into the societies of its day," writes Wise.
"As legal things, nonhuman animals are treated today as human slaves were treated once and continue to be treated in those few places in which human slavery is unlawfully practiced."
RATTLING THE CAGE
Wise dismisses as a "bogus argument" the contention that, in his ideal world, the courts would be flooded with lawsuits brought by lonely elephants, performing dolphins and tortured apes.
"Say it led to 100 lawsuits - two in each U.S. state - it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. So many human lawsuits are about comparatively frivolous things.
"What we are talking about would be truly life and death decisions - should this being live or die, should this being be tortured or suffer terrible pain?" he said.
Wise says he is "prepared to accept" that using chimpanzees in medical research, because of their similarities to humans, would help advance the fight against human disease.
"But it would lead to greater and faster advances if we were to go down to Main Street and kidnap 100 human beings and put them in biomedical research institutions. Clearly the ends don't justify the means.
"There are many many answers as to why we don't do it. But almost certainly the excuses people give would be entirely applicable to chimpanzees, with the possible exception of the not-very-good excuse that we are human and they're not. Which is like saying we're white, they're not; we're male, they're not; we're Christian, they're not."
Wise notes it took more than 2,000 years to change the way society viewed human slavery dating back to the enslavement of Persians by classical Greeks. But he is pleasantly surprised at how quickly his ideas are being talked about, and sometimes accepted.
Wise first taught his animal rights law class at Vermont law school, and has also taught it at Harvard and at John Marshall law school in Chicago. He teaches a masters course in the topic at Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine.
"In 1995, I was the only person teaching an animal rights law class. Now there are 25 U.S. law schools with some kind of animal rights class, and I know of one in Scotland, one in Holland, and another in Vienna.
"All these things tell me that the idea, in a general form, that at least some nonhuman animals should have basic legal rights is beginning to catch on with a speed that is much faster than I ever would have thought," Wise said.

It seems to me the human race is going the way of the dinosaurs.And right now we're at the end of the late Cretaceous period,except we're creating our own destruction.We're creating our own comet,so to speak.

It's only a matter of time given the death of common sense and the increasing influence of liberalism.

**Paul1953** · 02-21-2008, 22:06

So much for the dawn's early light. Here comes twilights last gleaming.

Remember , liberalism is only part of the mechanism.

**rpicardi1** · 02-22-2008, 08:09

Remember , liberalism is only part of the mechanism.

The rest of the mechanism are the "Sheep," that silent majority that seems so willing to trade their freedom for the security of Government provided health care, Government provided housing, Government provided food, Government provided employment, and Government provided security. History has proven, when it is too late, that this was not the good deal that liberals promised it would be. (Think Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, Communist China, and every other country where the experiment of Socialism is being implemented.)

Unless the "Sheep" wake up, so they can see the thorns on that Rose of Liberalism, the "Twilight Last Gleaming" is not far off.

The decisions that the "Sheep" make, this coming November 4, 2008, is going to be the most important thing that they will ever do for the rest of our lives. It will determine if freedom continues, or we go down the Liberal road to economic disaster.

**Paul1953** · 02-22-2008, 11:15

Vote Lou Dobbs!

**rpicardi1** · 02-22-2008, 12:15

Found some more lunacy from the Nanny State of the UK.

"A home owner is being threatened with legal action after a woman claimed she trapped her hand in his letterbox while delivering unwanted junk mail."

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/22/njunk122.xml

It is a proven fact that even in the most secure of maximum security prison in this country with closed circuit TV, 24-7 armed guards and constant searches for contraband, someone will kill another person using some kind of a weapon.

Can anyone explain why leaders in the UK have declared war on their law abiding citizens thus stripping them of any means of defense of their lives or property?