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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
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    Conyers, Georgia, USA.
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    Default MSTS Route Building

    Good Morning,
    Yes I am a newby, and banging my head against the wall.
    I have been practicing modifying a route, and have no real problems,
    it all seems to work, and is a great learning tool for me.
    even getting rid of my floating tracks.

    I have started to develop my first small project, real life copy
    of the CSX line around Lithonia, Georgia, to Conyers, Covington, GA.
    using a delorme Topo map program for development base. Track is
    going down nicely, and will build terrain to match the topo.

    The extraction process went by the book, and everything works. Route
    editor sees the new route, as does activity editor, and the route is
    in the Route folder in the main train sim files.
    But when I open train sim, this route does not show up in the
    route list, so I cannot open up the new route to test the route.

    What am I doing wrong, or what step have I missed ?????


    Second problem, I copied all my track and shape files to the files
    in the new route, but cannot see the add files when I go to shapes
    in the Route editor, how do I get this to work.
    I have copied all the files from my overall shape files and other
    files like the instructions have mentioned.
    How do I get this to add into the new route ????????????????
    I am going soley from the help files on Train sim editor, and
    tutorials I have down loaded from various Train sim sites.

    Help, as I cannot find any info on where to go to correct these
    problems.

    Thanks

    Tim



  2. #2
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    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    Hey Tim, I am glad that you are trying to do the CSX line in Lithonia. Believe it or not, I started in this area before modifying my route in Atlanta to do the Norfolk Southern Atlanta Route from Atlanta to Macon. Initially, I started in Lithinia with the small switching yard and worked my way pass Stone Mountain to I285, but decided to change my mind. I did this because NS had more scattered yards inside Atlanta. Good luck to your route. You are more than happy to use any objects that I have in the Atlanta Route, just acknowledge credit to owner. Anyway, I will attempt to answer your question.

    First question: Answer. Your route will not be recognized in the route listing of running train simulator, until you build an activity for it in the activity editor. Build an activity in the activity editor and your problem should be solved.

    Second question: Answer. You will not be able to use any objects until the following criteria are met.

    1.shapes: two shapes for each object must be placed in the shapes folder. They are s. and sd. files respectively.

    2.textures: ace file(s) must be placed in the texture folder. Some objects also have snow and night textures which must be placed in the textures folder as well.

    3.ref file: all objects must be added to the reference file. This file in located in the route's root directory. For example, if you look in USA2 Folder (i.e. Marias Pass) the file is entitled "Marias.ref". You will see all objects for that route, so just insert using the proper format.

    If you have any questions, just email back. ................

    Jones

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    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    Thanks For the help,
    I built a simple activity, but I guess I messed it up, as the
    main sim program didn't like it, and gave me an error, so I deleted
    the Activity.
    Will go back and build another small activity.
    What I need is an explore activity, as this is going to
    grow, as more and more track is laid.
    I also could not get anything to work as far as labeling area, or
    sidings. ?

    Since I live just east of Lithonia, and have ridden dirt bikes,
    and hiked all through the area, I have found a lot of old tracks
    and beds that used to go to the quaries in the area. I am looking
    for an old map that shows the old route to the Mill in Milstead,
    as I have not found that, but have seen a picture that shows a
    set of rails going out to the old mill. This is just a teaching
    tool for me, as I really want to eventually do the Route from
    Marietta, through Canton, Ball Ground, Tate, Jasper, Ellijay,
    and Blue Ridge, up to the old Copper mill and acid mill in
    Ducktown.
    I am also an HO modeler, and had done a bit on this route in HO,
    with my "Blue Ridge Mountain Railway" the "BRMR". I love HO,
    But think I can add more realistic operations that I can afford,
    in Train sim. We have been taking photos of all the old depots,
    and items along this route for a number of years to build from.

    I was looking for the referance file last night, but either could
    not find it, or didn't know what I was looking for.
    I looked in the Route folder, and didn't see it.

    In editor, I get only what comes basic with Train sim. The shape
    files were copied en-mass from a working shape file from another
    route for initial set up.

    One nice thing about the delorme Topo system, is that I can connect
    my GPS to the laptop, and if I want to locate items exactly, the
    topo system will store the actual co-ordinate data for whatever
    location or item and the referance as to what is there, in the
    Topo program files.
    As I lay track, I try and keep the end of the track section on the
    co-ords shown on the map diaplay, and I move the display center
    along with laying rails.

    I have not downloaded the Atlanta to Macon route yet. I have started
    to, but something has always come up where I did not have the time
    to complete the overall download. Will work on downloading the
    entire files.

    Thanks

    Tim Jones

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    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    Well, I see that you are well on your way to having a successful route. I will try to assist you as much as possible. Currently, I am working on the route from Macon to Savannah, so I understand.....Good luck! If you need any assistance just email me at [email protected]

    Obrian Jones

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    steam4me Guest

    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    Also look at the tutorials page at the site below......

    Regards

    Yuri.
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    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    Yuri

    Look at this tutorial page at your site below.

    Not Found
    The requested URL /trainsim/tutorials/JimS_mem.html was not found on this server.

    Apache/1.3.27 Server at steam4me.railpage.org.au Port 80

    That tutorial is about "How MSTS Route Editor Handles Memory by Jim Steven."

    Yuri -- Do you know anything about this or not??

    Thank you

    John P. Mackay :+
    Belleville, ON Canada eh!!

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    steam4me Guest

    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    Hmm. I haven't looked at that tute for years - I'll follow up to see where it's gone - I haven't consciously deleted it.

    Regards

    Yuri.
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    steam4me Guest

    Default RE: MSTS Route Building

    >Look at this tutorial page at your site below.
    >
    >Not Found

    >That tutorial is about "How MSTS Route Editor Handles Memory
    >by Jim Steven."


    John

    I found it on an old hard drive I'd long since consigned to the parts box. It's now been reinstated and accessible by the same link.

    I alo found a couple of other tutes by Jim Steven and Jim Ward that I must polish up and publish. Thanks for letting me know about this.


    Regards

    Yuri.
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