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    We don''t have a lot of Midwest routes in MSTS, and a great route for someone to model would be the Milwaukee Road Iowa Dakota Division especially from New Hampton Iowa to Sheldon Iowa. This would offer the Mason City anchor for the division, and big industrial shops in Charles City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainsman View Post
    We don''t have a lot of Midwest routes in MSTS, and a great route for someone to model would be the Milwaukee Road Iowa Dakota Division especially from New Hampton Iowa to Sheldon Iowa. This would offer the Mason City anchor for the division, and big industrial shops in Charles City.
    I too would like to see more midwest stuff,If someone is willing to get the terrain going on some of these routes I coupld possibly pound something out. I have a couple of subs I would like to see done.
    Todd
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    I have started on this route and have currently finished with normal and distant terrain using 10m DEM data. Would you have additional information on this route?

    The track between Sheldon MP253 and New Hampton MP69 was Iowa, Chicago and Eastern (ICE) which was recently purchased by Canadian Pacific (CP) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa,_C...stern_Railroad

    The first picture shows distant terrain in Mosaic. The second picture shows a test track for viewing distant terrain.

    The viewing distance for normal terrain and objects is 2000m. What is the viewing distance for distant terrain?
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    These pages may help.
    http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?...age=1&key=1973
    http://www.trainorders.com/discussio....php?1,1796796
    http://www.railpictures.net/showphot...ry=Iowa,%20USA
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3061748163/
    http://www.spencer-ia.com/images/history/depot.jpg
    http://www.trainweb.org/milwaukee/milw585.JPG
    http://rides.webshots.com/album/45377791XweFOn
    http://wikimapia.org/3989167/Sheldon-IA
    http://wikimapia.org/3990964/Wesley-IA
    http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=220576
    http://wikimapia.org/3999363/CMSP-P-Lawler-IA
    http://www.american-rails.com/milwaukee-road.html
    Yes the line was originally a Milwaukee Road main from Chicago west to Rapid City SD. It was later operated by ICE and now is acquired by CP.
    A few more things, up until about 1970, this line also had passenger service. The line was not heavy weight rail, and this was often the roam of the ultra light SD40-2s that were unique to MILW, SD10s SDL39s, F7 lashups, and MILW_GP20s. The traffic was largely farm commodities and also in particular the major transport for the Oliver Tractor plant in Charles City. In its heyday, this facility employed about 2,000 folks.
    Another thing, this line had a rather underwhelming signal system for a mainline route.
    Hope this helps, and I will keep looking.
    http://books.google.com/books?id=jRv...PA68&dq=calmar
    Another excellent resource is that below. It discusses some of the grades along the route.
    Google: Regional Railroads of the Midwest By Steve Glischinksi
    Thanks very much!!
    Last edited by plainsman; 12-23-2008 at 03:14 AM.

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    Bob This would be the East West route through Spencer am I not correct?
    Todd
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    Hi Todd,
    Yes that is correct.
    Sheldon, Spencer, Algona, Garner, Mason City, Charles City, New Hampton.
    I did cheat on one page, that F7 grain train is on further east on the river, but it would have passed through the route on its way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainsman View Post
    Hi Todd,
    Yes that is correct.
    Sheldon, Spencer, Algona, Garner, Mason City, Charles City, New Hampton.
    I did cheat on one page, that F7 grain train is on further east on the river, but it would have passed through the route on its way.
    Thanks Bob, this would be a interesting route to see compleated. There are some great photo op's east of Spencer....
    Todd
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    I found this account in Trainorders:
    "At 545 PM, we were lucky as we spotted e/b ICE freight at Ionia with engines 221-222-223 handling 103 cars with pushers 6422-6423. Please note the head end power and the helpers or pushers.

    Train included 2 MNNR scrap, one DME waffle board boxcar, 11 South Dakota Soybean processor tanks, 33 tanks mainly UTLX & SHPX marks, all had red placard with 1987 in black on a white background, had "flammable" logo at top and number "3" at the bottom of the placard, trailed by 56 grain loads.

    One of the pushers were giving trouble, but by the time they assaulted the Calmar Hill, the all units were working. We thought the pushers would cut off at Calmar, but they ran through to Marquette.

    Much of the ICE trackage from New Hampton, Iowa, eastward toward Ft. Atkinson is alongside the hiway. The railroad has a hill and dale profile so the engines are either working in notch 8, or working dynamic brakes. ICE has been installing new 136 lb. rail in this area, so train speeds will probably increase from the 25 mph or so in the next few weeks.
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    So this route would have some interesting operational aspects as well. That Calmar Hill is a 1.4-1.5% grade for a short way, and 1.2% for more than a mile. I don't know what speeds were in late 1950s -1965 on Milwaukee, but maybe a bit faster than 25 mph, as they still had passenger service. I would guess 35-40 mph. I think west of Clear Lake, you may get some straight stretches with speeds of 45-50 mph.
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    Calmar Hill is east of New Hampton, so I have extended the route east to the Mississippi river. Attached are pictures of distant terrain and the approach to Calmar from the west.

    Some of the markers shown as white dots are of abandoned rail lines which will likely not be included in the route. I used Google Earth which shows active and abandoned rail lines without distinction.
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    This is looking great so far!! Is there anything else you need research wise?
    Thanks again so much for tackling this project!!
    BTW, would it be a lot more difficult to set the car spawner up for mid 1970 models?
    Last edited by plainsman; 12-24-2008 at 01:34 PM.

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