Vermont, your own variant of political correctness is as unwelcome as the others.
Yes, it is a shame his request did not meet your standards, where you supposedly feel personal introductions are a requirement before a request is made. But you can take your standards and go pound salt (or sugar).
Just what is it with some of you guys on here? Do I need to use the "R" word?
Wow... reading this, it's like watching little kids fight. Max has a good point, he (the poster) number one, posted in the wrong section. Number two, he did just state what he wanted, bluntly.
Lets all be a little kind, ok? It sucks to get jumped on . . . and sucks to feel demanded. We're supposed to be having fun here. Right? And, I hope, we are trying together to welcome new people to our fold? (so welcome, CATSr2)
So, lets start over . . .
CATSr2, the reason your comment provoked the response it did is that those who repaint don't like to feel ordered about. We who paint and model do so for our own enjoyment and offer our work for free. Free, means a gift not an obligation - a key difference. And, it's the nature of artists to be cantankerous and like to control how their work is used and perceived. Just is.
Yes, I know you didn't order anybody about. What I said was we don't like to *feel* ordered about.
What was meant, but not quite stated so directly, is that you unknowingly tread upon an unspoken community norm of not appearing demanding. I think that's what is meant by not being polite. (Polite, after all is a social construct, and every standards of politeness evolve within groups). I understand (and have experienced) that desperate feeling. But being desperate is a turn off in any situation, be it dating or trainsim. That's when it's time to breathe and take a step back.
So anyway, I'm basically just trying to explain how the community works here. There's a history here regarding people demanding that people make things for them. So you set off something that is really about what came before you, but now casts what you said in a certain light.
Max is right about making them yourself, by the way. It really isn't that hard and the tutorials will teach you (as well as whatever graphics skill you already posses.) [see also the tutorials on steam4me.com] Frankly I have more fun with the reskins now than the running to the trains in trainsim! And we'll help you.
By the way, "Go pound sand" is an old railroad line. Max, you've now been initiated as a real railroader.
Hi Mike,
If you go visit a foreign country where you don't know how their manners work, you are likely to put your foot in it, so to speak, sooner or later. Every little community has it's own standards and the new people show up and don't know how it works and have to learn by putting their foot in it (or watching others do so). It's all right -- you learn and do things differently, going forward. No biggie.
Max is one of the other posters on this thread.
Christopher
Gentleman,
I have nothing to add to this thread in regards to repainting.
I do have a request though. Within the past few hours I have received some less than courteous emails which I think were being directed to Mike aka CATSr2. Please take a moment and realize that CATSr2 and Cats Clawson are two different people. Because folks get in a hurry to "chew people out" they make serious mistakes. Over the past few years I have seen people who have a lot to contribute to MSTS just disappear from the forums because of this nonsense. Everyone is so eager to find fault and start a tainted discussion. So please make sure that if you are sending personal notes of displeasure to someone, that you have the right person. I really don't care to be blamed for something I had nothing to do with. Thanks,
Scott Clawson "Cats"
"Cats"
Indianapolis, Indiana
Trains....The ONLY way to travel!
well as you can tell i am a newbie at forums and dont yet know how to make my wording, live and learn