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    Default A Few Ideas that I am playing around with

    Seeing that I have edited countless routes, I am making the decision to take this hobby. Plans are under way towards starting to build routes. The routes planned will be:

    -Southern Pacific Shasta Route (Klamath Falls, Oregon to Sacramento/Roseville, California)
    -Amtrak-California San Joaquin Route- Including the entire BNSF Stockton and Bakersfield Subdivisions (Oakland, California/ Sacramento, California to Bakersfield, California)
    -Union Pacific Fresno Subdivision (Elvas Tower-Lathrop-Kern Jct.)
    -Amtrak-California Capitol Corridor Route including the 82-mile stretch of the Altamont Corridor Express run from Stockton to San Jose (Auburn, California/Stockton, California to San Jose, California)
    - Caltrain Peninsula Line (Gilroy, California to San Francisco, California)

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    I would love run trains on Shasta Route... Is a good one link to the already done Feather River Canyon! - Go ahead, and if you need some donation...
    Sorry about bad English.
    Cheers from Curitiba, PR, Brazil
    Rodrigo Andreas Roesler

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    Oooh the Capitol Corridor/San Joaquin route would be AWESOME! Give me a place to run my Amcal stuff!!

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    My suggestion... create a vision on what you want, and then break it up into blocks of work.

    Different people will tell you how much to do at once. Some say 1 to 5 miles at a time, others say do all the track and come back to it. Either way, you need to divide up the work and find an approach that works for you.

    For me, I do a hybrid approach -- 30-60 mile blocks of track, followed by 1-5 mile blocks of scenery. Urban areas are a time killer. Countryside, not so bad. Start with one block, finish it, and move on to another (not necessarily the next block). That's how I've built my almost-finished Chicago route. Did the first 30 miles, placed scenery... moved another 30 miles, placed scenery... it's now 134 miles end to end.

    It's easy to get caught up on distance, but finishing needs to be the goal, not how long you want to sit at the screen once it's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analea View Post
    I would love run trains on Shasta Route... Is a good one link to the already done Feather River Canyon! - Go ahead, and if you need some donation...
    Sorry about bad English.
    Cheers from Curitiba, PR, Brazil
    Rodrigo Andreas Roesler
    Rodrigo,

    Have any of you, in Brazil done the line of the MRS Logistica, i.e. the new line completed around 25 years
    ago. It is on my bucket list, but if anyone has already done it, I would want a copy. A fellow did the
    El Centro line, at least part of it around Santos Dumont and sent it to me a few years back. My interest is
    that the company I work for is rebuilding part of the signal system and I put together the typical plans for
    that a few years back. It is one of the most amazing engineering sites I have seen, particularly the part
    between Barra Manza and BeloHorizonte.

    J. H. Sullivan
    (aka landnrailroader, Retired from CSX & Southern Rwy.)

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    Given that he is new to doing this from scratch, it is also important to note the cardiinal sins which are to be avoided.

    1. Finish the Track
    2. Then Finish the Roads
    3. NEVER, EVER, place interactives of any type until the last thing before shipping out the route and it is also a good
    idea to produce a clean database rebuild prior to that point and back that up. Then add the interactives, mileposts,
    speedzones, signals, track names, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

    J. H. Sullivan
    (aka landnrailroader)

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    Hello Mr. Sullivan:

    Please, try to contact this guy (Anderson Chimbica): he have been a Brazilian trainsimmer since MSTS is released. Some years ago he requested me some help to build a Brazilan route, but I don´t have time and patience to do it... Bellow I put a link of his youtube´s channel that has some previews of a MRS MSTS route, but I´m not sure if is the same line that you are looking for and I can´t say if is a Chimbica´s Project too. I believe that he is the only person that may help you in this research. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrq...4igA3U9KNmWDwQ

    I have his particular (PM?) e-mail if you want. Just send me a "pm" if you want. He also is a member of this forum with nick name "chimbicadash8".

    I will put some more links here. The first one is DVD seller, as a "Pentrex", that made some vídeos about MRS and VALE (they´re a good ones). Have you ever hear about Paranagua-Curitiba Railway? And the Central do Parana line? Looks the links: Brazil has some incredibles mountain grades... some "state of art in engineering" on metric gauge railway!
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG6...F1OkURllabwczg
    https://www.facebook.com/euamotrem?fref=ts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCqTokDjZqQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkKdXTil7Ms
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS8cLOqdIvs

    So, is just only this that I can do for you by now... If you want something more, please contact me. Sorry aboud bad English.

    Oh! - Keepin on duty producing some finest MSTS routes man!

    Best regards.

    Rodrigo Andreas Roesler
    Curitiba, PR, Brazil


    Quote Originally Posted by landnrailroader View Post
    Rodrigo,

    Have any of you, in Brazil done the line of the MRS Logistica, i.e. the new line completed around 25 years
    ago. It is on my bucket list, but if anyone has already done it, I would want a copy. A fellow did the
    El Centro line, at least part of it around Santos Dumont and sent it to me a few years back. My interest is
    that the company I work for is rebuilding part of the signal system and I put together the typical plans for
    that a few years back. It is one of the most amazing engineering sites I have seen, particularly the part
    between Barra Manza and BeloHorizonte.

    J. H. Sullivan
    (aka landnrailroader, Retired from CSX & Southern Rwy.)

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    I'll try to do that. I have seen those VideoTrex clips and sent them an E-mail asking if any were
    available in English, but got no reply. My Portuguese is non existent, although when I did the typicals
    I mentioned, I had a MRS official with me, who translated the nomenclature and we entered it into the
    drawings in both English (for us) and Portuguese for the folks at MRS. I forget the name of the fellow
    who sent me the portion of the El Centro route, but it wasn't the gentleman that you mentioned. The
    route was done quite early, perhaps around 2004, and so it did not have the detailed content that we
    expect today, but otherwise it was very well done. The MRS line going inland further from Santos
    Dumont, climbs a plateau on the grade exceeding 2%, so now, the MRS uses that line to return empty
    trains to the ore pit areas and Jaceaba and Belo Horizonte, and the newer line to deliver loads to the
    ore port a kilometers south of Rio. As my colleagues have traveled down there, they have brought
    back many images from along the line and I will use those to detail it.
    It is an understatement to say that there is fantastic engineering in those lines, particularly the ones
    from the last 30 years. MRS is broad gage, I am told 5 ft. gage, whereas other lines, such as those
    you mentioned, and the Vale lines are meter gage which makes it even more interestinig from an
    engineering point of view.

    J. H. Sullivan

    Quote Originally Posted by analea View Post
    Hello Mr. Sullivan:

    Please, try to contact this guy (Anderson Chimbica): he have been a Brazilian trainsimmer since MSTS is released. Some years ago he requested me some help to build a Brazilan route, but I don´t have time and patience to do it... Bellow I put a link of his youtube´s channel that has some previews of a MRS MSTS route, but I´m not sure if is the same line that you are looking for and I can´t say if is a Chimbica´s Project too. I believe that he is the only person that may help you in this research. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrq...4igA3U9KNmWDwQ

    I have his particular (PM?) e-mail if you want. Just send me a "pm" if you want. He also is a member of this forum with nick name "chimbicadash8".

    I will put some more links here. The first one is DVD seller, as a "Pentrex", that made some vídeos about MRS and VALE (they´re a good ones). Have you ever hear about Paranagua-Curitiba Railway? And the Central do Parana line? Looks the links: Brazil has some incredibles mountain grades... some "state of art in engineering" on metric gauge railway!
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG6...F1OkURllabwczg
    https://www.facebook.com/euamotrem?fref=ts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCqTokDjZqQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkKdXTil7Ms
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS8cLOqdIvs

    So, is just only this that I can do for you by now... If you want something more, please contact me. Sorry aboud bad English.

    Oh! - Keepin on duty producing some finest MSTS routes man!

    Best regards.

    Rodrigo Andreas Roesler
    Curitiba, PR, Brazil

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    Hi Mr. Sullivan: I have a good News!

    a) I found the link for the route are you looking for and downloaded it: http://simuladoresbrasil.forumeiros....inha-do-centro. I "extracted" the file and it appears to be ok. If you want, there are another route that connects with this line, and it´s called Ramal do Paraopeba (a good one engineering landmark too)... I also contacted the creators and I will put them to talk with you when they answered me;

    b) The Videotrex products are no more avaiable. All titles is only in Portuguese language;

    c) Probably the person that you are refering is Mr. Diter Oliveira. In his YouTube channel, there is a "remark" made by you. I believe that he is the route author (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnkk...SBHmf_9oRuTA);

    I hope it could help you.

    Watch your step! Stay safe.

    Rodrigo Andreas Roesler
    Curitiba, PR - Brazil



    Quote Originally Posted by landnrailroader View Post
    I'll try to do that. I have seen those VideoTrex clips and sent them an E-mail asking if any were
    available in English, but got no reply. My Portuguese is non existent, although when I did the typicals
    I mentioned, I had a MRS official with me, who translated the nomenclature and we entered it into the
    drawings in both English (for us) and Portuguese for the folks at MRS. I forget the name of the fellow
    who sent me the portion of the El Centro route, but it wasn't the gentleman that you mentioned. The
    route was done quite early, perhaps around 2004, and so it did not have the detailed content that we
    expect today, but otherwise it was very well done. The MRS line going inland further from Santos
    Dumont, climbs a plateau on the grade exceeding 2%, so now, the MRS uses that line to return empty
    trains to the ore pit areas and Jaceaba and Belo Horizonte, and the newer line to deliver loads to the
    ore port a kilometers south of Rio. As my colleagues have traveled down there, they have brought
    back many images from along the line and I will use those to detail it.
    It is an understatement to say that there is fantastic engineering in those lines, particularly the ones
    from the last 30 years. MRS is broad gage, I am told 5 ft. gage, whereas other lines, such as those
    you mentioned, and the Vale lines are meter gage which makes it even more interestinig from an
    engineering point of view.

    J. H. Sullivan

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