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  1. #11

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    Gradient Chart With All Presently Used Notations

    The <===<<< show the old MSTS Editor Grade Snap positions in use since 2001.
    % Percent _Degree___‰ PerMille

    .025%------0.014------0.25‰
    .050%------0.028------0.50‰
    .075%------0.045------0.75‰
    .090%------0.050------0.90‰
    .100%------0.058------1.0‰
    .125%------0.072------1.25‰
    .150%------0.085------1.50‰
    .175%------0.100------1.75‰
    .180%------0.102------1.80‰
    .200%------0.116------2.0‰
    .220%------0.125------2.2‰
    .240%------0.135------2.4‰
    .250%------0.147------2.5‰
    .260%------0.150------2.6‰ <===<<<
    .280%------0.162------2.8‰
    .300%------0.173------3.0‰
    .325%------0.187------3.25‰
    .350%------0.200------3.5‰
    .375%------0.215------3.75‰
    .400%------0.231------4.0‰
    .425%------0.243------4.25‰
    .450%------0.258------4.5‰
    .475%------0.272------4.75‰
    .500%------0.285------5.0‰
    .520%------0.297------5.2‰
    .525%------0.300------5.25‰ <===<<<
    .550%------0.315------5.5‰
    .575%------0.329------5.75‰
    .600%------0.343------6.0‰
    .625%------0.358------6.25‰
    .650%------0.373------6.5‰
    .675%------0.387------6.75‰
    .700%------0.401------7.0‰
    .725%------0.417------7.25‰
    .750%------0.431------7.5‰
    .775%------0.441------7.75‰
    .790%------0.450------7.9‰ <===<<<
    .800%------0.458------8.0‰
    .825%------0.472------8.25‰
    .850%------0.485------8.5‰
    .875%------0.501------8.75‰
    .900%------0.515------9.0‰
    .925%------0.529------9.25‰
    .950%------0.545------9.5‰
    .975%------0.562------9.75‰
    1.00%------0.575------10.0‰
    1.05%------0.600------10.5‰ <===<<<
    1.10%------0.633------11.0‰
    1.15%------0.658------11.5‰
    1.20%------0.698------12.0‰
    1.25%------0.717------12.5‰
    1.31%------0.750------13.1‰ <===<<<
    1.45%------0.833------14.5‰
    1.50%------0.860------15.0‰
    1.57%------0.900------15.7‰ <===<<<
    1.70%------0.975------17.0‰
    1.85%------1.050------18.5‰ <===<<<
    2.00%------1.150------20.0‰
    2.09%------1.200------20.9‰ <===<<<
    2.25%------1.290------22.5‰
    2.50%------1.433------25.0‰
    2.62%------1.500------26.2‰ <===<<<
    2.75%------1.575------27.5‰
    3.00%------1.733------30.0‰
    3.14%------1.800------31.4‰ <===<<<
    3.20%------1.833------32.0‰
    3.40%------1.950------34.0‰
    3.50%------2.030------35.0‰
    3.66%------2.100------36.6‰ <===<<<
    3.80%------2.183------38.0‰
    4.00%------2.300------40.0‰
    4.19%------2.400------41.9‰ <===<<<
    4.35%------2.491------43.5‰
    4.50%------2.583------45.0‰
    4.71%------2.700------47.1‰ <===<<<
    5.00%------2.870------50.0‰
    5.23%------3.000------52.3‰ <===<<<
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  2. #12

    Default Setting track grade

    SETTING TRACK GRADE

    There two ways to set track grade.
    This Tip will refer to the Keyboard method.

    Conditions:
    NumLockOn & Tracksection placed, selected (blue outline) and ready for adjustment with NO TDB yellow lines showing!

    1. The keyboard NumPad Keys; 8 is Upgrade, 2 is Downgrade. Press & release the 'R' key first to select 'Rotate' Mode
    then . . .
    2.One press of the 8 or 2 NumPad keys results in a 2.5% Upgrade or a -2.5% Downgrade step.
    So: 2.5%, 5.0%, 7.5%, 10.0% and so on.

    2. Holding the Ctrl Key down while pressing the KeyPad 2 or 8 key results in a 0.10% steps.
    So: 0.1%, 0.2%, 0.3%, 0.4%, 0.5%, 0.6%, 0.7%, 0.8%, 0.9%, 1.0%, 1.1%, 1.2% and so on.
    Well . . . .not exactly ...
    The values I show above are ROUNDED.

    For instance, going to the 2.5%: It shows on the panel as 2.49974%
    And the 'Fine Adjust' numbers also suffer above a 0.3% value. Ex; 0.5% shows as 0.499998%.

    Close, but no cigar for one who want's 'exact' gradient on their route. I'm personally not picky and being off by 0.0001% is not something I would worry about . . . but still I 'think' is should be exact . . no?
    This is something I'm sure Goku will explain/fix when he is ready.

    Regards,
    Last edited by Vince; 07-31-2017 at 04:17 AM.
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  3. #13

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    SETTING TRACK GRADE . . . continued.

    When typing grade in on the TSRE Elevation Panel there is a problem with a 'flipped' tracksection.

    Lets use the TOP line on the panel; We want to enter a '10.00' (which equals 1.0% see bot line )

    The problem is with each keystroke a gradient change takes place.
    The first two digits (10) work properly. BUT gradient change occurs with the '.00' too. This is clearly an error.
    Non flipped track work normally when being moved up or down.

    The bottom line:

    When typing in grade on the Elevation Panel, be sure to keep a close watch on the track section you are moving!

    Remember, once you 'flip' a track section via the 'X' key all subsequent track sections WILL be flipped.

    edit add:
    Pasting ( Ctrl+V ) the wanted value wanted into, say 15.00 (1.5%) copied ( Ctrl+C ) from from a text document works correctly.
    It's only manual typing to a flipped track that shows the problem.
    Reset Rotation gets it back to normal.

    regards,
    Last edited by Vince; 08-15-2017 at 12:48 AM. Reason: more info
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  4. #14

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    Rotating Objects

    When you rotate an object by use of the Copy/Paste or Transform button, be sure to re-select the object (even though it appears to be selected (blue outline)) by use of the 'E' key or Select Button. This is to allow you to regain fine movement control when the Ctrl Key is pressed and held with the movement keys.

    regards,
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  5. #15

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    SETTING TRACK GRADE . . . continued.

    When typing grade in on the TSRE Elevation Panel there is a problem if the tracksection is 'flipped'.

    When you place a curve it normally curves to the left. All works well when entering grade values in the elevation panel.

    Not so if track is 'flipped' i.e. curves to the right and it's impossible to manually enter into any field in the elevation panel.

    If I'm setting grade on multiple curve-to-the-right (flipped) sections it's convenient to paste a grade entry copied from text.
    In the editor there is a 'Search' field on the Objects Panel a few lines from the top.
    If I'm setting grade to lets say 2.5% I type 2.50 into the percent field ( or 25.00 into the permille field).
    As long as you don't type into these fields it's ok and copy / paste from the Search is an easy spot to put you grade data.

    regards,
    Last edited by Vince; 09-22-2017 at 12:53 PM. Reason: permille typo 21 shd be 25
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  6. #16

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    Dynamic Track

    Though I'd pass this on . . .
    A month or so ago I have had several TSRE cashes when saving a newly installed Dynamic Track section.
    The sequence was
    +place track, adjust dynamic track properties, press Z for TDB, Save.

    I have not had a crash since adopting a new sequence:

    ++place track, ++adjust dynamic track properties, Save w/no TDB lines, re-select track, press Z for TDB, Save. Done!

    It seems that while saving DT as a static object without the TDB also being saved at the same time eliminated the crashes.

    This is the PRR-East route. >50MB Track Database

    regards,
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  7. #17

    Default TSRE5 Search Function

    The SEARCH Function

    The TSRE5 Objects Panel has a handy search function.

    You can search on any part of the Shape Filename

    SearchFunctionTSRE.jpg

    Click on image to enlarge.
    Here I'm looking for 6m tunnel sections and a search on tun6m gets what you see here. Very handy and time saving. I'm really getting to like this editor.

    regards,
    Last edited by Vince; 10-16-2017 at 11:21 PM.
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  8. #18

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    Dragging Objects With the Mouse

    Happened tonight! About 20 minutes ago I was dragging a 100m ruler using the mouse/hold1 to re-position it down the ROW when I happened to tap the keyboard [Shift] key while moving.
    This caused the ruler object I was dragging to go into rotate mode. When I released the [Shift] key, back to the same old drag.
    Okaay
    So . . . holding the shift key while dragging with the mouse causes the object to rotate . . . neat!
    Which I figure is a lot easier than dragging an object into position, pressing the 'R' key and proceed to rotate . . .

    And please, don't see this as a closed thread. Anyone who has a useful suggestion to understanding TSRE please post here.
    Much Thanks,
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  9. #19

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    Transfers & Adjusting Terrain

    I found that tweaking terrain under a Transfer can be difficult.
    The terrain seems to 'bleed through' the overlying transfer as I raise or lower the terrain under it.
    This seeming bleed through is eliminated if you first select the transfer patch and leave it selected as you manually adjust (tweak) the terrain. Found by accident. Seems to work ok.

    regards,
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    .............LIRR VIDEO.............
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  10. #20
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    Linking Signals

    TSRE's method of linking signals is quite intuitive, but can be very tricky for the uninitiated. Having recently finished signaling a route, and a large one at that, I've learned some things to make this process easier. So here's Linking Signals in TSRE for Dummies (like me):

    Easy Junctions
    signal_1.jpg
    1. Assuming you've placed your signal and know what you want linked, click on the button 'Show List' on the left-hand side of the screen. A menu will pop up with all the signal's sub-objects on it. Select what you need. Note that unlike MSTS, you must actually click on the checkbox, rather than either the text or checkbox.
    2. When you're ready to link a route, click the 'Link' button for that sub-object, which should no longer be greyed-out now that that sub-object has been selected. When you press the Link button, the 'Set Link' button should now read 'Set Link [x]', with 'x' being the sub-object number assigned to it in the sigcfg file. That number is not otherwise indicated in the menu, but can be determined by counting from the top starting at 0 for the topmost one. In my case, it reads 'Set Link [13]'.
    3. When you have done this, click on the track where you want the link set. In my case it will be the diverging route. In the image below, a red arrow indicates where I clicked to set the link. If done right, a set of numbers will appear in the blanks in the SubObjLink info section next to the Set Link button. The two outside numbers will be switch or end-of-track nodes wich will be visible in TSRE. These can be used, especially in tight quarters, to make sure you got the right track linked.
    signal_2.jpg

    Complex Junctions (Challenge Mode)
    signal_3.jpg
    Use above steps, but when clicking on links, especially for double slips, these are best practices.
    The red circle shows where I would link the through route on this switch. The green dotted line shows the TSection line for the through route, which will be a good guide to where to link that route. The blue circle shows where a diverging route can be selected on this switch. It works almost without fail, even in very tight spaces.
    Link_areas.jpg
    These guides will work on any switch, not just double slips. I have used them on all kinds of switch shapes with success. So get to it!
    Last edited by ebnertra000; 12-01-2017 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Slight corrections

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