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    Default Which FTP program is best now (preferably free one)

    Colleagues,

    For years we have been advised to use WS-FTP by Nels in his instructions on preparing material
    for upload, but that one is no longer available. I still have it on a old Win-XP machine but to use it,
    I have to take the desired files and port them over the network (or by a thumb drive) from the
    Win-7 to the XP machine.

    I have tried FileZilla on the Win-7 machine and it is free, and is somewhat similar to WS-FTP
    but has some items to answer in setting up a profile that I have no clue about.

    So, what is the recommended (preferably free) item to use these days on Win-7 or Win-10.

    Jerry Sullivan
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    Filezilla is probably the best-supported for now if you want free - not sure what your profile problem is.

    If you use Firefox 52ESR or one of the forks like Waterfox or Pale Moon, that still use the old-style extensions, you could use Fire-FTP (http://fireftp.net/), which I've always liked. Simple and generally standards-compliant. Won't work on Firefox versions since 57, or anything else that requires WebExtension for add-ons.

    EDIT: if you have Win7 Pro you can download a virtual machine with XP, still, from MS. Runs in Virtual PC, which you also have to download. You should be able to run your old XP-only software in that VM on the Win7 machine. Be aware, though, that it's only licensed for use with Win7 Pro & Ultimate, and can't be ported to other VM software without some (questionably legal) hacking; it also can't legally be used in Win8 or 10. However, if you get something like VirtualBox and have an old RETAIL copy of XP, you can install it in the VM and activate it there when your old hardware dies - so, another way that old software can live on. Fair warning, though: MSTS won't run in a virtual machine, period.
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    I'll put my vote in for Filezilla. Can't beat the price, and easy to master.
    Neil

    Here at home, in the railroad mayhem capital of the world.

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    Filezilla best for setting up an FTP server, but I use WinSCP if all I need is an FTP client for Windows.

    https://winscp.net/eng/index.php
    - FTLDave

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    Neil, would you be good enough to provide instructions, especially for setting up the profile along the lines
    of what Nels has in his developers instructions. I could never get FileZilla to connect and log in using the
    parameters he gave. All I need to do is the occasional upload of a route, the next one coming sometime
    in the summer of 2018 if all continues to go well. It will be the last of the mainline of the Milwaukee Road
    Pacific Extension, although I plan to also do the Great Falls line.

    J. H. Sullivan
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    Colleagues,

    In the next two or three weeks, I will be uploading the MCOA2 route. I have FileZilla but I still cannot
    get a connection to the trainsim ftp server. Would anyone that is using this free product let me (and
    others) know what settings to use. I am running Win-7. I was using the parameters in that strip of parameters
    across the top of the screen:
    ftp.trainsim.com--anonymous----(my email address)---21

    The port number "21" disappears when I activate the log in, and I don't see any other parameters.

    J. H. Sullivan

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    Cheers
    Derek

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    No Derek, that just is the original instructions that go back 16 years, and mostly apply to
    the use of a very old FTP client that is not usable on Win-7. I have it on a old XP machine
    but that machine balks at connecting to the Internet with anything.

    Several recommended FileZilla, which I have, but I have not been able to get it to fully
    connect to ftp.trainsim.com. For one thing, the instruction you referenced say to use
    your email address as the password, i.e. anonymous/email. However, FileZilla does not
    allow a password that long, so---.

    J. H. Sullivan

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    Have you tried an email to Nels for filezilla settings?

    Failing that, do any other developers have filezilla settings?

    I only have filezilla settings for elvastower.
    Cheers
    Derek

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    Yes, Derek, I made that request months ago. I did find another client that seems to set up
    correctly. It is called "Free FTP Client" and like FileZilla is on the www.download.com site.
    I would expect that the settings, except for the server address, would be similar for
    ElvasTower and TrainSim. I access ElvasTower also for my Narrow Gauge interests. And
    then I have never actually tried to see if the old FTP client would run on the Win-7 machine
    in XP compatibility mode or not. It is possible to run a virtual PC under Win-7 as XP but
    for using FTP only every year or so, that is hardly desirable.

    Since FileZilla is commonly used these days, I got to wonder why Nels has not updated
    his instruction. And just for curiosity, I did find that my IE-11 would connect to his FTP site
    using the suggestions he provided as well.

    J. H. Sullivan

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