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    Default East Seligman to LAUPT

    Welcome aboard Amtrak No.3, the Southwest Chief, we will be stopping at Kingman, Barstow, Victorville, San Bernadino, Riverside, Fullerton and Los Angeles. We apologise for the late running of this service (No.3 runs overnight but you wouldn't see much) and for operational reasons we will not be stopping at Needles (I would have had to get into the dispatcher screen to change tracks), so if you are going there that's tough.

    The video is 1000% normal speed, it took about eight and a half hours in real time. I have a new appreciation for the Amtrak crews who work through from Kingman to LA (or the other way to La Junta). I let AI run the train and positioned the camera just behind the left hand windshield. All the stationary trains and cars in sidings and yards are already there in the Busy LALA Land world.

    There is a jump in the time stamp east of Ludlow where I stopped recording for the night and reversed the train a mile back towards Ash Hill to get up to road speed when I restarted. Also look out for the pine tree that for some reason turns into a palm tree when I paused and restarted during the Kingman station stop.

    Could this be the longest single run possible on any rail simulator?

    Last edited by alvinkathage; 04-05-2018 at 04:23 AM.

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    Man-O-Man, that's a lot of desert. Very cool video.
    Interested in all Train-Sims

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    Excellent video, I really enjoyed it. I think the only other contender would be mega-route of some of Bob Wirth's ATSF Routes in MSTS/Open Rails. I believed at one time I had enough of the routes merged that you run seamlessly from Newton, KS to Barstow, CA. Talk about a long haul!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinkathage View Post
    Welcome aboard Amtrak No.3, the Southwest Chief, we will be stopping at Kingman, Barstow, Victorville, San Bernadino, Riverside, Fullerton and Los Angeles.
    Once more FYI it's spelled San BernaRdino.

    The video is 1000% normal speed, it took about eight and a half hours in real time. I have a new appreciation for the Amtrak crews who work through from Kingman to LA (or the other way to La Junta).
    Federal Railroad Administration hours of service laws only allow US railroad operating employees to work 12 hours so actually the crew change points for the Southwest Chief are:

    LaJunta - Albuquerque, NM (ABQ crew)
    Albuquerque - Kingman, AZ (ABQ Crew)
    Kingman - Los Angeles, CA (LA Crew)

    Nice video and nice use of time the compression! In real life it isn't desert from Seligman to Kingman. Here are some links to photos of the area:

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-830

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-841

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-845

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-842

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-840

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-829

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-844

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    Quote Originally Posted by P834C View Post
    Once more FYI it's spelled San BernaRdino.



    Federal Railroad Administration hours of service laws only allow US railroad operating employees to work 12 hours so actually the crew change points for the Southwest Chief are:

    LaJunta - Albuquerque, NM (ABQ crew)
    Albuquerque - Kingman, AZ (ABQ Crew)
    Kingman - Los Angeles, CA (LA Crew)

    Nice video and nice use of time the compression! In real life it isn't desert from Seligman to Kingman. Here are some links to photos of the area:

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-830

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-841

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-845

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-842

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-840

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-829

    https://jakemiillephotography.com/sl...p-carousel-844
    That explains why my spell checker didn't like San Bernadino even though I'd been reading San Bernardino all week, I guess it's the way us Aussies pronounce things. I did make sure I spelt Albuquerque correct though, I'm sure that name was just made up using all the left over 'Q's and 'U's.

    I thought Albuquerque was the crew change but when I did a google search to be sure I found this map from Trains magazine that makes it look at first glance that the crew district is Kingman - La Junta, when you look closer they do appear to show that crews work both directions out of Albuquerque. If I'd looked at the timetable I would have seen that a crew wouldn't make it to La Junta. http://trn.trains.com/~/media/files/...rn-m0506_a.pdf

    In July 2012 I spent three weeks driving from Texas to LA and you are correct that there is a bit more greenery in some places than depicted in Run8, it is mainly west of Kingman that it starts looking more desert like.

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    P834C,

    nice pics but they have just gone an spoiled the illusion that Run8 scenery was realistic. I know the sim is not about eye candy, but immersion is a huge factor in re-creating overall realism. A bit more greenery where required, would not have hurt.

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    Just been through the Walong area and the terrain textures are a lovely speckled green colour, with green trees.

    So a week along, i am still extremely pleased i made the purchase.

    Mike.
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    I too think Run8 is worth the money. All the sims stray from reality a bit in the scenery department sometimes. Here are some of my shots from July 2012 for comparison.

    I took this shot at the Route 66 overpass at Crookton just east of Seligman, a bit dry looking there.
    DSC01216.jpg
    I didn't get any shots of the railroad until Crozier closer to Kingman but this is Route 66 just east of Peach Springs and a bit to the north of the railroad at Nelson.
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    Crozier looked a bit greener but I'm wondering if they have good and bad years like we have in the Australian outback and in the canyons it would likely be a bit greener the same as we have here too. Could the photos with all the green shrubbery have been taken after a bit of rain? Not living there it's hard to say but I'll just accept the way it is in Run8 as the middle of a dry spell.
    DSC01242.jpg
    This was taken not far west of Kingman and the countryside looks much more like desert and to me looked much the same all the way to LA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinkathage View Post
    I did make sure I spelt Albuquerque correct though, I'm sure that name was just made up using all the left over 'Q's and 'U's.

    Albuquerque was named in honor of Francisco Fernández de la Cueva, 10th Duke of Alburquerque who was Viceroy of New Spain from 1702 to 1711. The growing village was named by provincial governor Francisco Cuervo y Valdés. The Duke's title referred to the Spanish town of Alburquerque, in the province of Badajoz, near the border with Portugal.

    The name has two theories of origin, which denote either Latin or Arabic roots. Under the Latin theory, the name derives from albus quercus meaning "white oak". The name was probably in reference to the prevalence of cork oaks in the region, which have a white wood when the bark is removed. Alburquerque is still a center of the Spanish cork industry, and the town coat-of-arms features a white cork oak. Another theory suggests that the name derives from the Arabic Abu al-Qurq, which means "father of the cork [oak]".

    The first "r" in Alburquerque was later dropped, probably due to association with the prominent Portuguese general Alfonso de Albuquerque, whose family title (among others) and then name originated from the presently Spanish town, which was once a dominion of the Kings of Portugal and used the Portuguese variant spelling of its name. The change was also in part because citizens found the original name difficult to pronounce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haverfordwest View Post
    Just been through the Walong area and the terrain textures are a lovely speckled green colour, with green trees.

    So a week along, i am still extremely pleased i made the purchase.

    Mike.
    I shall put up a similar video I made from Bakersfield to Barstow while practising to do this one. I'll let it upload while I'm wandering around Barstow yards in the dark with a flashlight trying to find where the locos I sent from the servicing area to the departure yard went.

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