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  1. #11
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    Red face What is being worked----

    Colleagues,

    The Clinch-Appalachia route is well along. I've finished the main line from
    Bluefield to Norton, track only, no details yet. I've also done the Norton
    yard (N&W-L&N) which has a strange layout, but I have duplicated it very
    well considering the vagaries of MS track, even with X & M tracks. I am
    going on to the Interstate RR and have done it from Tacoma almost to
    Norton. The IRR is the current line from Norton to Appalachia, the L&N
    having been abandoned after a connection to NS was made at Big Stone
    Gap around 1982. Even so, I intend to include the L&N line as the route
    is backdated to around 1980. I will leave markers in for the IRR from
    Tacoma to south of Coeburn in case there is a IRR fan that wants to
    complete that. I might consider including that in a future update of the
    Kingsport Sub. (CLinchfield) since that would include Miller Yard.

    I need to add more roads to the Virginian & Big Sandy routes, and then
    I want to lay track on the rest of the routes. As all this is going on,
    Moe Smith is checking the MCOA2 route and then I review these and
    send them to Lukas. Eventually Lukas will release a new version of the
    MCOA2. Lukas handles overhead wires a lot better than I, and the
    Virginian will be my last electrified route. I expect my next release
    will probably be the Virginian but I need to create a lot of modern coal
    mine equipment first.

    And finally, I will be away from my computer from 7/4 through 7/22
    while I go to the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic to train as, and hopefully
    work as, a docent. The school is 2 days starting 7/8 and then one
    has to do a few trips with an experienced docent. This term, docent,
    usually associated with a museum, is used, because the C&TS is a
    moving museum. It is also a place for those who were born too late.

    J. H. Sullivan
    (landnrailroader)

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    Quote Originally Posted by landnrailroader View Post
    Colleagues,
    And finally, I will be away from my computer from 7/4 through 7/22 while I go to the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic to train as, and hopefully work as, a docent. The school is 2 days starting 7/8 and then one has to do a few trips with an experienced docent. This term, docent, usually associated with a museum, is used, because the C&TS is a moving museum. It is also a place for those who were born too late.

    J. H. Sullivan
    (landnrailroader)
    Enjoy your time at C&T. It must be great to get the full feel of what steam was like. I'm jealous.
    Chris
    "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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    Chris,

    If you really want to get the full feel, they do have fireman/engineer schools offered a couple
    of times during the season. Rather pricey, I think the 2018 price was about $500 for an hour
    or so of throttle time, and they do it with some of the freight equipment out on the main
    line. I had my throttle experience on the Southern, when I worked there from 1965 to
    1978. My experience was on the Southern 4501, same wheel arrangement as most of the
    C&TS power, but bigger space between the wheels.

    My comment about "being born too late" is part of the motto of the "Friends of the C&TS".

    Jerry Sullivan

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    I've continued to lay track on the Clinch-Appalachia route and have completed the
    mainline of the Interstate which started at Wentz, mile zero. Today it only goes to
    Tacoma at mile 22, where it joins the former N&W main, but in days of old it went
    on another few miles down the Guest River to Miller Yard. It would not be hard to
    digitize the line on to Miller Yard because today it is a very visible (on G.E.) hiking
    trail.

    So then I started to lay track along the former Southern line which will go as far
    as Big Stone Gap, likewise for the former L&N line. This brings back memories.
    I was last up here as a SR employee in the summer of 1978, but have been back
    in 2002 or so when the L&NHS held their annual meeting in Kingsport, TN.
    Alongside US-23, the Southern had a yard, consisting of 3 long tracks besides
    the main track. All four tracks were very busy most of the day, with two unit
    trains being assembled of Southern Silversides gondolas (hint, rolling stock
    folks how about creating some of those). At the east end of this yard, there
    stood the Westmoreland Coal Company transloader, as well as a entry into a
    coal mine. The transloader was on the site of the former SR yard and it
    existed from 1969 until 1995, when Westmoreland pulled out of Virginia. It
    is history today, but on GE you can see the circular bases of the silos.

    Activity creators can go insane here. There will be many small, and a few
    large, mines on the several IRR branches between Appalachia & Norton as
    well as the SR St. Charles branch. Smaller hopper cars, with a big yellow
    dot (ball) on the side were limited to local, online, service and brought
    raw (or dirty) coal to the transloader where it was cleaned, sized, etc. and
    then stored in the 4 silos. Finished coal was then loaded into the
    Aluminum silversides cars. The yard was long enough for 1/2 of a train,
    i.e. 50 cars, so when the road power showed up in the mid-afternoon from
    Andover, it was first used to double the train together while a cab(oose) was
    added to the rear. Around 4pm, the first train departed, and about an hour
    later, the 2nd. One went to Belmont, NC (near Charlotte) and the other to
    Catawba, NC (near Statesville). So I think the activity creators will get the
    general idea.

    From 1988 to 1995 a special shuttle train, owned by Westmoreland Coal
    moved coal from the Holton mine (on a short branch off the SR St. Charles
    branch) to the Wentz preparation plant where a unit train was loaded.
    This ceased when Westmoreland Coal left Virginia. The cars were rather
    strange. 16 of them were used and they had their own conveyor that
    ran the full length, underneath. I am including the Holton mine and the
    unloading point for this train, so if a rolling stock creator is interested, I
    can see about getting permission to copy the only photographs I have
    ever seen of them.

    In 1982 a connection was made between the L&N (CSX) and by then NS
    on the north edge of Big Stone Gap, and after that the L&N was abandoned
    between Big Stone Gap & Norton, but I will include it. Two features of this
    line are interesting. Bee Rock tunnel, thought to be the shortest on the L&N
    until a shorter one was found at Westmoreland, TN. Both line have now
    been abandoned. There was a rock rib on the side of the mountain when the
    L&N was building their connection to the N&W around 1912 and it was feared
    that removal of the rib would cause instability, so a tunnel through it (45 feet
    or so) was dug. Then less than a mile to the west, the SR crossed over the
    L&N on a bridge right at the west (railroad north) portal of another tunnel.
    The SR yard ended at the east end of the bridge, which passes over US-23,
    Powell River, and the L&N.

    J. H. Sullivan
    (aka landnrailroader)

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