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    Hi everyone, I am wondering if a Amtrak MHC would be suitable for a stand in for Milw Road express mail cars since there is no suitable model currently for them? MTH Trains offers an Amtrak MHC in Milw colors and it doesn't look too bad honestly. https://mthtrains.com/20-93280

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW 2156 View Post
    Hi everyone, I am wondering if a Amtrak MHC would be suitable for a stand in for Milw Road express mail cars since there is no suitable model currently for them? MTH Trains offers an Amtrak MHC in Milw colors and it doesn't look too bad honestly. https://mthtrains.com/20-93280Robert
    I stand to be corrected but apart from some pretty awful model railway box cars I can't find any reference to them ever having such cars. They had a lot of baggage cars and RPO's which were liveried in various schemes used on their passenger stock but I can find no reference shots for box cars like this. In fact I can't find any pictorial reference to a MILW passenger consist which includes a box car. I can only conclude that if they did use them it must have been a rare beast because photographs of the road are plentiful?
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    The two cars I am thinking of were featured in a Model Railroader article from years back. The boxcars were brass imports and the consist consisted of an Alco RSD-5 or some such. Two or three heavy weight cars and two mail boxcars. The consist was a representation of some branchline service.

    Here is one of those brass import cars. https://brasstrains.com/Classic/Prod...Boxcar-948-F-P

    One in UP yellow. https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/...x-Car-1621-F-P

    Some pictures here of Milw express boxcars. http://streamstylegraphics.com/galleryFreightMOW.html

    Not everything milw is well represented. I recently requested drawings from the Milw historically society for the steam heat tenders of which milw built 4 or 5. One of which was a tender from a Milw F7 4-6-2 pacific. It took three long months to get back a response and a poor quality scan of a tender of which would be very hard to model with such a poor drawing.

    A great deal of Milw stuff was scrapped at the end and no such cars survive that I am aware of. There is a GN boxcar still around that is similar in appearance.

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    In all the reading I've done, I've never seen where express boxcars were used on the MILW. They had no shortage of mail cars.

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    Now even I am perplexed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW 2156 View Post
    The two cars I am thinking of were featured in a Model Railroader article from years back. The boxcars were brass imports and the consist consisted of an Alco RSD-5 or some such. Two or three heavy weight cars and two mail boxcars. The consist was a representation of some branchline service.Robert
    There are loads of pictures and reference material about MILW's passenger trains. They even painted heavyweight parcel cars to match various newer passenger liveries. It seems odd that there is no reference of such a specific liveried car in the real world? Even stranger that if they'd actually produced these they'd end up on a branchline when they were using older baggage cars on their mainline trains? I'd suggest that perhaps this is an example of model railway enthusiasts "enthusiasm" over prototypical reality? Having said that this wouldn't be a first in "fictional" virtual models? Just seems a waste of effort when there is so much reference to REAL baggage cars when these are also lacking in prototypical MILW liveries?
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    Very true Geoff. I am not going to do any repaints because there too much lacking information on whether or not the cars ever existed.

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    These cars look plausible to me. I have articles at home from Railway Prototype Cyclopedia that would confirm . . .

    On the (long) list of sets from BLWZT that I am working on is a head-end set. I've completed a batch of reefers for it and that's it, but one is a Milwaukee Road wood express reefer (because I saw one in a photo on the Fonda, Johnstown & Gloversville).

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    There’s a nice RPO in the BLW MILW UP liveried set. http://www.valleypass.com/Sales/MILW2.htmAlthough The Model Express cars are obviously based on the livery used in the earlier (?) Electric/Hiawatha trains. This has a baggage car in that livery.http://www.valleypass.com/Sales/MILW1.htm
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    I've got both sets and they are very nicely done.

    Chris, I have some info on Milw and NP steam heat cars converted from steam engine tenders.

    Robert

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