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    Run8 is looking very tempting to me as it seems to be the best sim for learning the entire railroad beyond the locomotive. I'm curious if this is a correct view, and about where to find learning resources not for Run8 itself but more for the trains, railroads, and operations being simulated.

    I've spent several years enjoying the commercial jet simulations specifically because they of the depth of simulation around the real world navigation systems and procedures to the point where I can use real life planning, navigation, documentation, and procedures and they mostly function correctly in the sim. Looking to do similar learning in railroads it possible.

    Thanks for any pointers and insight!
    Brian

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    Hi Brian - Welcome to the forum.

    Since you have been a avid flight simmer with a interest in realistic operation and procedures etc, then I would say that Run8 is the train simulator you have been looking for. Run8 goes way beyond the locomotive if you wish to learn more about railroad operation and to try and recreate those operations with in the sim.
    It has the best physics of any train simulator, matched with realistic air and brake simulation for the locomotives and wagons. It's the only sim that does a good job of hump yard operations and individual numbering of all freight wagons for sorting, classifying and forwarding to industry's etc. It has a dynamic world, so no scripted repetitive sessions that are standard with most train sims.

    Learning about the actual railroads like BNSF, Union Pacific etc, You should probably start with learning about the actual sub routes included with base program and getting yourself oriented with the region etc which is similar to using a flight chart and relating that to the real world. To do that you will need maps, timetables etc and good starting point would be to download route maps from The Depot namely UP-BNSF Mojave Sub, BNSF Needles Sub etc.

    https://www.thedepotserver.com/maps/

    Although dated these Official Timetables for the California region are use full.

    BNSF Southern California Division Timetable 1999 ( Needles Sub page 25-29 )

    http://fobnr.org/wp-content/uploads/...-04-022199.pdf

    Union Pacific Los Angeles Timetable 2013 ( Mojave sub page 38-42 )

    https://blet5.files.wordpress.com/20...-timetable.pdf

    Some BNSF And Union Pacific Signal Guides:

    https://signals.jovet.net/rules/BNSF...al%20Rules.pdf

    https://signals.jovet.net/rules/UPRR...al%20Rules.pdf

    After downloading the maps etc I would use The Depot UP-BNSF Mojave Sub map and watch these excellent videos done by Steve Davis on his YouTube Channel who shows multiplayer operations done on the The Depot server.

    Run 8 UP Local LOP-53 (Mojave Subdivision) Parts 1-4

    https://www.youtube.com/user/TTownTrainFan/videos

    These videos will give you insight into how in depth Run8 can be and even if you don't want to do multiplayer you can still learn something from his videos and apply it single player operations.

    Hopefully this has been helpful and will help you in deciding if Run8 is the type of train sim you are looking for.

    Cheers

    James

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    You sir are my hero! Just the type of things I was looking for. Bought Run8 earlier today and, thanks to The Depot videos got first train started and moving. Completely clueless on anything beyond that, but did manage to get the switches set correctly to make it to a main line and had a great time.

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    Brian , Run8 has a learning curve and when you think you have it figured out it gets better. John even has the centerbeams physics down so there is wind drag when empty as in real life.
    Last edited by westerngy; 01-21-2020 at 10:29 PM.
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    I can believe it! Makes me miss my software coding days - it was always fun to implement that little bit above-and-beyond functionality and wait for someone to go "Ooooh!"

    Would love a community owned "Welcome to the railroad" wiki-book. Something that picks up after the Run8 docs and does a series of exercises to get noobs up and operating. Day 1: Spawn an engine at X and go get the fuel topped of in the yard. Day 2: Go get that box car that rolled out of the classification yard and put it away. .... Day 143: Sort these incoming trains, figure out the best power configuration, build a train, and transfer the needed cars to Barstow.

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    Brian

    The Run8 guides are not the best for new people getting started with the sim, and given the depth or realism it offers, it should have included guides to starting a locomotive - understanding the use of locomotive brakes and their application etc,etc. Your idea about a wiki-book and exercises for new players is interesting. It might actually be possible to create some sought of exercises using the Extra Board Tab, as this gives you a empty world in which to add locomotives - Rolling stock etc.
    When you go to save your new world using F1 and then the Save As Tab you can name the world or in this case we will consider it a scenario or exercise, and then use the box below the name tab to write about the exercise and its requirements. Perhaps this idea used in conjunction with a PDF supplement for the exercises could be done and as you have mentioned having the exercises increasing in difficulty. I will have a think about this idea and possible scenarios that could be created over the next few weeks.

    Cheers

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    Interesting. I was just looking at setting up a GitHub repository and Wiki with the idea I might take a shot at documenting my learning.

    No qualms from my side on the small team spending time on the simulation instead of holding newbie hands like mine. Good opportunity for something the community can giveback.

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    Already have a Wikia for several years. But it's based on my car forwarding system used in Run8. Still it's not doing anything else but collecting dust at the moment.

    Thanks

    Sean

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    Here's a great collection on manuals I ran across:
    http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/manual/manual.html

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