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    Okay I am not even knowledgeable in this area so I am asking for some help from those from this area. The NJT picked up some F7 from the CNW, but it looks like they made some changes to the rear of the Locomotive over all. Does anyone have any actual images of what the NJT did?
    Thank you Michelle

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    Michelle there are loads of pictures on http://www.rrpicturearchives.net./mo...id=NJT&mid=136 and http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/njdot/njdot.html and https://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php

    A quick scan would show some differences to most F7's to the front of the roof and rather more obvious some socking great exhaust pipes at the back? Also an extra piece of kit below the lower of the two lights on the nose.

    To make the base model look like these will take a pretty complex FA?.

    Note too that there were variations in the colour scheme. Some with more gray areas and less black.
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    Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I wasn't guessing as the few images I did have are correct. but you filled in the rest.

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    I thought that CNW added the HEP arrangement in the 1960s when the F7s so equipped went into commuter service, and that NJT did not do much more than repaint the leased CNW units when they arrived on the east coast, but I could be wrong about that. IIRC, BLW/ZT has a model of the HEP equipped CNW F7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trs666 View Post
    I thought that CNW added the HEP arrangement in the 1960s when the F7s so equipped went into commuter service, and that NJT did not do much more than repaint the leased CNW units when they arrived on the east coast, but I could be wrong about that. IIRC, BLW/ZT has a model of the HEP equipped CNW F7.
    So they Did! One of the sets I don't own so missed that. It's a shame there isn't a route that covers the CNW out of Chicago ...or did I miss that?

    There used to be a BLW "Player's Reskin's" section. Not sure that's still up and running? I'd happily upload some box car reskins is it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateagain View Post
    It's a shame there isn't a route that covers the CNW out of Chicago ...or did I miss that?
    Actually, I've been working on downtown Chicago to Madison, WI for the better part of 10 years... Track's been done for a while, but finding time to do 30 miles of urban scenery takes time. Didn't help that I also added Chicago to Rochelle about five years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trs666 View Post
    I thought that CNW added the HEP arrangement in the 1960s when the F7s so equipped went into commuter service, and that NJT did not do much more than repaint the leased CNW units when they arrived on the east coast, but I could be wrong about that. IIRC, BLW/ZT has a model of the HEP equipped CNW F7.


    Basically when the NJT recived these units they had wrong parts installed and were a pain to operate, they did not last long in service before they were replaced.

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    The engines had the wrong injectors installed. Some of the parts installed in the electrical system buggered up their performance.

    They could only do 4 cars, and even that required a running start to make the hills.

    The C&NW F units received the typical "Cheap & Nothing Wasted" approach of the C&NW, resulting in garbage being delivered to the NJT.

    They didn't last very long on NJT. I think I've read 2 years and they were gone from the roster. The NJT leased the F units because the 50 year old 3,000 volt DC Lackawanna EMU cars having frequent mechanical break downs. The EMU cars had been restricted to rush hour only status. The 32 GE U34CH units couldn't completely cover all the schedules. Hence, 6 or 7 F units came to NJT to help out. It's been stated in a "Mark 1 Video" the number being 6. But I count 7 F units total going to NJT.

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    seems the CNW lived up to name Cheap and Nothing Wasted. Cause the locomotive were a mess when the NJT received them.
    maybe the NJT should be known as Never refusing Junk Trains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsSheare View Post
    seems the CNW lived up to name Cheap and Nothing Wasted. Cause the locomotive were a mess when the NJT received them.
    maybe the NJT should be known as Never refusing Junk Trains.
    I think it was more the desperate need for power and a lack of available locomotives suitable for commuter trains. The 50 year old 3KV DC EMU cars were having serious issues due to age, and lack of available parts for 1920's technology. The then new U34CH diesels couldn't completely cover all the schedules of the EMU cars. So they leased the C&NW F7's. I guess C&NW bought back two of them and the rest stayed with NJT until retirement. They only lasted 2 years on NJT. They did get leased out to SEPTA, with an agreement to have SEPTA repair them back to a better standard than when they arrived on NJT.

    The NJT originally leased 7 units from C&NW. One of them caught fire or suffered a mechanical failure and was written off early on. Hence, there is often mention of only 6 ex C&NW F7's on NJT.

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