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Thread: SLSF (FRISCO) Springfield Sub ca. 1950

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    Default SLSF (FRISCO) Springfield Sub ca. 1950

    Hello all, Cade here!
    I'm back and I have recently began construction on the first 50-mile release of what will eventually sprawl into a 405-mile (mainline) route, at least the first version, the St Louis-San Francisco Railway's Springfield Terminal and Springfield Subdivision. This subdivision of the Frisco ran between Springfield, MO and Monett, MO, with branch lines to Ozark and Mount Vernon. Springfield was the hub of the railroad and was located on her crossroads of the St. Louis-Texas and Kansas City-Memphis-Birmingham mainlines, and the location of the railroad's offices, major shops, and three major yards, including the massive classification yard at Kansas Ave. The city was served by several major SLSF passenger and freight trains and was also the end of a Missouri Pacific branch that interchanged with the Frisco. Monett was the meeting point of several of the railroad's branches and subdivisions, including the Ft Smith and Cherokee Subs, along with the Joplin Branch. In the late 1940's and early 1950's this line would've been crawling with action.

    The Route:
    The Frisco Springfield Sub for OR will be the complete sub from Monett to Springfield along with all branches and spurs, and will also include all of Springfield being modeled and detailed in this first release. I am using aerial views from 1959, Sanborn maps from the 1920s and 1930s, and track charts/schematics from the 1960s, so that is one reason why 1950 was chosen as the date. The other reason is because the Frisco dieselized by 1953 so I want this to be in the peak of the railroad's transition era, where first generation diesels served side by side with the SLSF's beautiful 4-8-4s and Heavy 4-8-2s, in my opinion some of the most beautiful steam locomotives ever to be built. (As this route gets nearer to completion if any of the more talented steam modelers need a new project check those out and the other Frisco locomotives of the era ) Plenty of switching, mainline freight, and passenger action to go around.
    So far I have the track laid out around MK Junction heading east and south on the Ozark Branch. Next I will be moving west towards the station. I plan on laying all of Springfield out before heading towards Monett.
    slsfbegin.jpg

    Future Plans:
    This version is just the beginning of a route I have planned and dreamed of building for a few years now. The first full version will include this section along with the Ash Grove Sub to Fort Smith, KS, the Lebanon Sub to Newburg, and the Willow Springs Sub to Thayer. Possible extension past there will be along the Missouri Pacific and the SLSF's lines in far Southwest Missouri.

    If anyone is interested in helping out or just giving general pointers, feel free to PM or e-mail me!
    Thank you,
    Cade VerHage
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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    Default 10/12 Update

    In the past week, I have been able to nearly complete the track layout on South Springfield, only needing to lay out the Phelps Ave industrial area. South Springfield is the location of the Passenger Stations and Freight Houses(both Frisco and MoPac), the south Car Shops, the secondary South Yard, MK Junction, the Ozark Branch and numerous industries strung out along Mill St and Phelps Ave.

    Looking east on the outskirts of Springfield towards the West Belt Wye
    slsf1.jpg
    Overlooking the passenger tracks, South Yard and Shop tracks, in the foreground, and the MoPac in the background
    slsf2.jpg
    MK Jct looking southeast towards the Ozark Branch and MP Interchange
    slsf3.jpg
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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    Hello Cade!

    Any Frisco-based route is a welcomed addition.

    Are you using Digital Elevation Models (DEM) on your route? If not, you will lack the prototype's terrain setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coonskin View Post
    Hello Cade!

    Any Frisco-based route is a welcomed addition.

    Are you using Digital Elevation Models (DEM) on your route? If not, you will lack the prototype's terrain setting.
    Hello Coonskin! I am actually, from the same source I found data for my KCO&S route, webgis.com I believe.
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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    DEM's:

    Good deal. Over the years I've watched some new route builders lose heart when they discover DEM's are available... and they've got umpteen hours in a billiard table (no DEM) route that simply can't be converted to DEM's without a huge loss of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coonskin View Post
    DEM's:

    Good deal. Over the years I've watched some new route builders lose heart when they discover DEM's are available... and they've got umpteen hours in a billiard table (no DEM) route that simply can't be converted to DEM's without a huge loss of work.
    That would definitely be awful. I've known about DEMs for years so I made sure grabbing them was the first thing I did before anything else.
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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    Default 10/21 update

    Just finished laying the Springfield track layout. Next to do is the Ozark Branch then I will begin working towards Monett.

    Overview of current tracks
    [IMG]slsftv1 by Cade VerHage, on Flickr[/IMG]
    Springfield close up
    [IMG]slsftv2 by Cade VerHage, on Flickr[/IMG]
    Kansas Ave Yard Closeup
    [IMG]slsftv3 by Cade VerHage, on Flickr[/IMG]
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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    This is really coming along, Cade. Glad to see some more progress shots!
    New York Central
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbita View Post
    This is really coming along, Cade. Glad to see some more progress shots!
    Thank you Orbita!
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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    Default 10/28 Update

    This week, I was able to lay track all the way to Monett. Next week, I am hoping to lay out all of Monett and the Mt. Vernon Branch. After that, track work will be done and I will be able to begin scenerizing the route.

    [IMG]slsftv4 by Cade VerHage, on Flickr[/IMG]
    -Cade VerHage-
    New arrival to the Route Builder community
    Focusing on the railroads of the Midwest and Southeast (1920's-1970's)
    Huge Frisco Fan

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