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Thread: Tracks on all routes look like they're laid in concrete, ( no ballast texture).

  1. #41
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Pacific Time


    Having destroyed stuff a few times ...

    Pro tip: Many (though by no means all) installers, especially of freeware, are actually self-extracting zip files and can be examined before installation with 7-Zip. Doesn't always work, but worth checking. That way, you can see whether it's doing anything odd to your Global folders and take countermeasures (like installing it in a mini-route) if it does. Open Rails works fine with mini-routes - you locate them for the program in the options just like for MSTS routes.

    Xtracks, Newroads, and Scalerail and Scaleroads, have all proven to be safe, for me, to install as directed - in the MSTS folder outside of Program Files (I have a "sims" directory at the C:\ root level with short directory names, for MSTS and other old stuff, and Open Rails (to simplify updates)). You will certainly need to tell the installers where to put things. If you actually fully installed MSTS in that root location, it's possible that some installers will pick up the actual location from the registry, but many don't including the MS updates for MSTS.

    I have seen no particular problems with other routes after installing the 3DTS Tehachapi and Cajon routes then adding the 3DTrains scenery (and Scalerail) updates. It helps to do things in a certain order, though: older route packages like 3DTS' Cajon and Tehachapi (and its equipment/activity expansions) should be installed before installing any other routes, then their scenery updates. THEN the current Scalerail and Scaleroads. THEN any other freeware routes you want to install in the real MSTS Routes folder and any added rolling stock and consists for them.

    There are many instruction packages for creating mini-routes. Most of them date from when it was necessary because MSTS couldn't handle really big routes if others were present. Open Rails doesn't have that problem, but it's often better to do large, complex routes, particularly those that fiddle with the Global directories a lot, in their own directory outside of .\msts anyway. Trainsimulations does that by default. So does PRR-ER. 3DTrains' WP route and 3DTS' Donner route should also be installed that way because of the size and complexity, though in my experience, WITH OPEN RAILS, they do work in the regular msts\routes structure.

    I keep a copy of the official msts installation (a working one), with no additions beyond the msts patches. If I need a mini-route for installing something non-commercial (commercial routes in my experience usually create their own mini-route correctly), rather than trying to fiddle things, I just copy that complete msts install into the new mini-route directory, install the new route and any dependencies (like the latest XTracks, Newroads, Scalerail, Scaleroads) in there, verify that any installme has run properly, verify that the route works, then delete the unnecessary MSTS stuff (mainly, the default routes that I'll never actually use, unnecessary stock and consists (for instance European stock and consists if it's an American route), a few documentation folders, and clean out the base msts directory itself except for the trains.exe file. Yes, for Open Rails, that can be deleted, too, and be replaced with a blank text file named train.exe - I'm too lazy to do that). I don't touch the Global folders. Oh yes, and in most cases, if the route doesn't do it already, I install the latest tsection.dat.

    Probably easiest to show a picture of my top directory structure. Note the highlighted folders where routes are placed.
    Screenshot 2021-01-24 125839.jpg

    All stuff that we've all heard before. Except maybe some newbies. In my case, I have to say that I seldom have stability problems, even with a ton of routes and other stuff installed, in Windows 10 Pro fully updated, on a 15-year-old computer with a GTX750ti GPU, with frame rates that only rarely drop below 60 (the monitor refresh). Go figure.

  2. #42


    Most useful tip, I told already, is installing new content to empty folder and see, what installer writes, and where.
    If it shows not harmful changes, you can copy or reinstall it to common MSTS folder, if it writes its own versions of global textures, shapes and sounds with same names as default stuff have, you probably establish it as mini-route at separate location, furthermore, ORTS don't need other MSTS stuff duplicated there, exept tsection.dat

  3. #43


    I Downloaded and Installed the Latest Version of XTracks 3.20 and No Change.
    I Guess my Next Step is to Reinstall the Original Train Simulator.

  4. #44


    Everything On My Older Routes Was OK. When I Installed OHIO Rail and Messed with the Track Batch Files is When Everything Went Bad with
    the Track Textures. I've Removed Ohio Rail but don't know if the Cause of the Problem went away. I still Don't Get the Track Textures I Originally Had.

  5. #45
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    SW MO


    Not sure about this but XTracks might not overwrite a shape already in the Global/Shapes folder.
    Install XTracks to a work folder and then copy/paste into your Global/Shapes folder overwriting when prompted to.
    Better yet, go ahead and create the shapes and textures folders in the work folder and put the shapes in the shapes folder and throw an acleantrack1 and 2 in the textures folder.
    They should open right up in shapeviewer.
    Then copy them to your Global/Shapes folder.


  6. #46


    That's What I did but Still No Change. I'm in the Process of Copying My Routes, Trainset and Consists to a Temporary Folder then I'll Uninstall and Reinstall Trainsim as Per Steam4me.

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