Page 4 of 12 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 115

Thread: Curious About Run 8.

  1. #31

    Default

    E-Mailed the Run 8 Group and they Resent my Download Link so Hopefully when I get Home I can Download and Install V2.
    They Explained that they Forwarded the Link Shortly After I got the Confirmation E-Mail and that My System may have Dumped it.
    DaveKfromUP

  2. #32
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    Fort Langley, B.C. Canada.
    Posts
    324

    Default

    It was nice to finally hear from John concerning Run8 V3. I sure hope it is backwards compatible as well. Cheers.
    Ezra

  3. #33
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    White Lake, Mi, USA.
    Posts
    10

    Lightbulb

    Quote Originally Posted by bnsf4794 View Post
    I hate to be contrary on an otherwise supportive post, but V3 isn't "just around the corner". We're plugging away on it, yes, as well as a bunch of other projects. Also, regarding performance, you won't need a super-computer, and in fact, V3 may run better than V2. The main bottleneck in Run8, as with any sim\game, is shadows. Any machine with a modern multi-core CPU and a decent graphics card will run Run8 just fine, even with shadows on under normal circumstances.

    Best Regards,
    John Greenstone
    Run8 Programmer
    Its nice to hear that Run8 is still getting worked on. I will also agree with many other comments here that Run8 is very much worth it. I have no idea how many hours I have spent working yards, running locals, or climbing the grades on the main. And I have lost count of how many people I have introduced to the sim and how Run8 has become their go to sim. So if OP is still on the fence about it I will very much recommend pulling that trigger on buying Run8.



    HOWEVER. My gods do I wish we got more centralized updates. It's kinda frustrating that its been so long with out any official word on whats going on. Ive had conversations with people on reddit where they claim that Run8 is dead. Which gets hard and hard to say it isn't when there is so little in terms of even news. Like, even this forum post wasn't easy to find. Not everyone who plays Run8, or Trainz, or TSW logs into this forum. In fact, the only reason I saw this post was because someone sent me a screen shot of a topic on The Depot talking about it.

    Now if I where a new user and I went to r/trainsim on reddit and I asked "Hey whats a good train simulator that has multi player?" Someone would inevitably recommend Run8 and maybe even send a link. Regardless if they send me a link or I google Run8 I get to the Run8 web site where I could buy the sim. Yay me. But note, that in the process, never once did Trainsim.com come up. So as a new user I wouldn't see this post or the other comments that John has made in the past.

    I recall in the past John had said something along the lines of "We can work on the sim, or we can post updates about working on the sim. But not both." Now I will argue that you can do both. And a very good example of how this can be done can be found in the sub sim, Wolfpack. To show this, let me tell you a the story of Wolfpack, so far....
    So March of 2019 Wolfpack dropped as an early access game on Steam being developed by just 2 guys. Some videos came out and it gained some traction. I even picked it up in April of that year. But a few months after launch there was nothing. No updates to the game on Steam. No comments on the Steam forums for it. Nothing on the Wolfpack discord. Players e-mails where even going unanswered. The players where quickly losing interest. Some called the game a dead game. Others claimed the devs took the money and ran. Some even requested refunds. It got so bad that potential new players would join the discord to ask questions, only to get pushed away by upset players. Finally after like 4 months the devs picked up on what was going on. They made the promise to be more transparent in what they where doing with the game. And since then, once a week, they post a very short little update on what they have worked on. These are just one sentence per person updates, but they show that progress is being made.

    Here is an example of an update they put out:
    "Hello everyone!
    This week I've continued modeling the U-boat's new compartments. Koji is working on the new merchant ships. Oscar is working on the new water asset. Axel is working on the netcode."

    So how could this be applied to Run8? Well, I don't think the once a week thing would work. But maybe once a month. And just int he press release section of the Run8 web site. Could look something like this :
    "This month John worked on improving the net code. Brad modeled some new building assets. Nigel worked on some textures"

    This, I think, would help keep the hype up. Keep people interested. Sitting on my discord are at least a dozen people who don't own Run8, but are waiting for V3 because they assume its going to come out very soon. Having these progress reports/updates right there on the Run8 website would help them understand that we are maybe another year out form V3. It would also be easier to show the train sim community as a whole that, yes Run8 is still alive and kicking. And that V3 is being worked on.


    Sorry to have derailed this thread a little, no pun intended. But I have wanted to say that for the last 4-5 months, I just didn't know where. And I was just talking about this during my servers Friday night op session and live stream. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk....lul

  4. #34
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.
    Posts
    3,523

    Default

    Very nice post, and I completely agree. Though I've had my issues here for sure, there are places far worse when it comes to speculation, constructive criticism, etc. Despite brining in, recommending, or other word of mouth support for the sim anything critical is brought under a microscope, while the intangible support seems to be overlooked.

    But it's not my problem, I've always said it's their business and they can run it however they see fit.

    But to echo your recommendation to anyone back on topic with the OP that you will get your money's worth and so much more by purchasing V2 right now.

    Thanks

    Sean

  5. #35
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Swindon, England
    Posts
    5,625

    Default

    Even some general information about V3 - what it might bring to the table over and above V2 - would be welcomed.
    Vern.

  6. #36
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia
    Posts
    4,024

    Default

    Perhaps they are shy.
    IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

  7. #37
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    S.W.WALES
    Posts
    2,938

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by seagoon View Post
    Perhaps they are shy.
    Or have a social disorder
    Yma O Hyd

  8. #38
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia
    Posts
    4,024

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by haverfordwest View Post
    Or have a social disorder

    I have never come across a business which was so averse to promoting their products.

    During the time that I spent with an international company I was involved in sales & marketing.....it was my main role from 1976 to 1993..... so I have accumulated more than a smidgen of know-how when it comes to pushing your wares.
    The Run8 management don't seem to be in the slightest bit interested in telling the world about the sim or what their plans are.
    Last edited by seagoon; 04-08-2021 at 03:11 AM.
    IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

  9. #39
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    S.W.WALES
    Posts
    2,938

    Default

    I don't know much about business Bruce, too much working for the yanky dollar is not good for the soul.

    You obviously know your stuff though buddy. Seems like common sense, never mind business sense.

    To give your products a high profile, released or in development.

    Mike.
    Yma O Hyd

  10. #40
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Swindon, England
    Posts
    5,625

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by seagoon View Post

    I have never come across a business which was so averse to promoting their products.

    During the time that I spent with an international company I was involved in sales & marketing.....it was my main role from 1976 to 1993..... so I have accumulated more than a smidgen of know-how when it comes to pushing your wares.
    The Run8 management don't seem to be in the slightest bit interested in telling the world about the sim or what their plans are.
    For all their flaws, DTG do seem to have the PR side of things sorted - with their own forum which is quite tolerant of dissent, far more so than when R8 (briefly) had their own. Then there's the streams - sometimes Q&A - which also turn up on YouTube, Facebook and Discord (though I don't frequent the latter) all of which keep the communication going.
    Vern.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
-->