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    Default BNSF ET44 Units not displaying correctly

    Hello all, I have a question about the editor, may be something else though. Everything else in my rosters seems to display correctly except for the three BNSF ET44C4 Locos, 3894, 3917 & 3952. When creating a consist I noticed that only the "FA" portion is picked up by TSRE5 Consist Editor v0.7002. The models display fine in SV with both parts showing.
    I have not seen if the appear OK in the sim yet. Nothing showing up in the CE Log file.
    Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen? Thank You.

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    Before anyone spends too much time diagnosing what amounts to an incorrect starter base shape to begin with, has anyone tried mating this T4 F/A with the proper C4 base shape that came with the Mullan addon?

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    bandicam 2021-12-19 13-26-48-900.jpg <<< this what you are looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geepster775 View Post
    Before anyone spends too much time diagnosing what amounts to an incorrect starter base shape to begin with, has anyone tried mating this T4 F/A with the proper C4 base shape that came with the Mullan addon?
    I would've figured these ET44AC's had 6 powered axles, and would thus not have the axle weight distribution equipment present on the C4's. Is that not true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by r. Steele View Post
    bandicam 2021-12-19 13-26-48-900.jpg <<< this what you are looking for?
    yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryPlatypus View Post
    I would've figured these ET44AC's had 6 powered axles, and would thus not have the axle weight distribution equipment present on the C4's. Is that not true?
    No, you are thinking correctly. ET44AC's are six axle powered with C-C trucks, while the ET44C4's have the A1A-A1A trucks.

    https://www.american-rails.com/et44ac.html#History
    https://i.imgur.com/LPZNEX4.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by geepster775 View Post
    Before anyone spends too much time diagnosing what amounts to an incorrect starter base shape to begin with, has anyone tried mating this T4 F/A with the proper C4 base shape that came with the Mullan addon?
    I just followed what little instruction was included with the set. They are nice looking engines. I do not, nor intend to get the Mulan Route. No funds available.

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    All the BNSF Tier4s are C4s

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    Doh, I had the wires in my brain crossed with my reply, thinking I was replying to something in the CN ET44AC thread... My apologies

    Like Geepster said, 100% of BNSF's ET44's are C4's with the axle weight distribution equipment on the sides of the trucks. So using an ES44AC shape is really not optimal unless the F/A adds that equipment (although I've seen a handful of users add them to trucks via texture only)
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    Specs and ORTS diesel engine

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    	ORTSAirBrakeMainresvolume ( 28.35ft^3 )
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    Cheers, Gerry
    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
    Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.


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