Run8 V3 Roseville Sub ( Donner Pass )

[haverfordwest]

It is what it is Vern. Not having a dig at the developers. Just not good enough for me personally.

The all round experience i mean. Mrs M is going to stop your pocket money at this rate, buddy.

Mike.

[NorthernWarrior]

First impressions are… not too bad actually. I started at the Roseville end and the detail and texturing is pretty good, much fuller looking than parts of the SoCal routes. Trees, well some actually look 3Dish so maybe the devs have taken on board some of the feedback. It will be a while before I get up in the mountains to see what things look like up there. This could be one route where running in winter conditions brings out the best. I read a comment on The Depot forum that the night lighting, town/city effects is very good, haven’t tried that yet still 0700ish in the morning.

I’ll probably attempt a run in both directions across the route then get stuck into industries.

Of course it’s typical this comes out the day after I, 1. Reinstall MSFS, 2. Buy Wyoming and Heavy Haul for ATS and 3. Was finalising what Bossman stuff I wanted to get for TSC in the Steam sale!

Edit: Oh and 4. Was on the verge of finishing Taymyr/Russia in Snowrunner!

[haverfordwest]

Enjoy then Vern, i would be interested in any further impressions of the route.

Yikes, i can only concentrate on one game at a time.

Mike.

[NorthernWarrior]

Continued a little way up the Pass yesterday evening, also watched a bit more of the YouTube review. Lots of nice detailed buildings and tunnels, bridges etc. but the terrain painting just looks a tad monotone to me. Even up in the foothills tends to be one or two shades of green, though there is a grey rock texture mixed in on the high part of the pass. I guess that’s a trade off for getting 200 miles. One thing the guy on the video was commenting on, this route does show the limitations of the game engine for doing steep cliffs, cuts etc with a bit of a jagged appearance, kind of like we saw in MSTS. So while I still very much like the route, I would personally hope before attempting any more mountainous routes, especially anything in the Rockies or maybe Canada they see what can be done to improve the terrain sculpting and painting. I know that guy who did the Canadian route in Trainz (Roy?) was a bit arrogant calling himself Rembrandt, but there was no doubt he really captured the mountain feel in style.

[SurvivorSean]

I'm sure it's awesome but I have a server in the SE to run 24/7. Unless someone plans to buy me a computer. V3 is a great simulator and the guys continue to push the programming side. Personally I try to push the operaitons side and I'm having a blast with the AEI systems as one of those ways I do just that.

A while back I was in a forum here at TS where I clearly was mocking a company and this was said
"And Sean, yes your prejudice against TSW is understood and respected but as I said above some of us actually like to operate our trains in an environment that doesn't consist of one or two flat terrain textures and cardboard cut out trees!"

Yes another "buddy" isn't called out for expecting miracles here on their prejuidice? Yet the team has a simulator here that is working as designed to the limits they can take it and people still expect TSW scenery or something. I find that very amusing. I'm here because this is my sim once again since V3 came out and am interested in what they are developing. Unlike other sims that don't care about pushing limits just pushing out eye candy to generate more fast cash. I'll stick with the team that actually has their heart in it!

Thanks

Sean

[NorthernWarrior]

Let's not start getting salty Sean. I never said I didn't enjoy Run 8 and as I drive it I am really liking Donner. I've spent about 2 hours on it so far today. But that's not to say there isn't scope for improvement...just as the other sims also have aspects they could do better.

[seagoon]

.......I know that guy who did the Canadian route in Trainz (Roy?) was a bit arrogant calling himself Rembrandt, but there was no doubt he really captured the mountain feel in style.

Yep.... RoysTrainz was the name of the developer, Vern.
That was the last Trainz route I bought, in fact. He did a very good job with it.

[haverfordwest]

I have access to all 7 of Roy's CP routes, with my Gold membership.

Really good creations. Back on topic, thanks for the overview and thoughts Vern.

If it had joined to the existing routes i have. I might have overlooked the scenic deficiencies.

That is one of the main things i did like about Run8, the joined up thinking.

Mike.

[SurvivorSean]

You are a customer and interested in Run8 so constructive criticism is certainly warranted. However I take exception of my so called prejudice against TSW while another user here excpects Run8 to be what is the so called "standard" of train simulaiton in 2022. My issue isn't even with that user. My issue is the hyprocicy of that kind of treatment to a fellow participating member of Train-Sim that's all. I'll leave it at that.

Getting myself back on topic, as for the new route I'm sure it will be very enjoyable and improved on over time. I'm saving my money for the Fitzgerald Sub as it will be a great expansion to the opeations and beauty in the south east.

I'm also very curious what other things the Run8 team has down the road for other routes and/or regions.

BTW does anyone know if this route has working AEI detectors? I know the actual hot box detectors work as AEI but they are not aloways positioned where you need them like traditional AEI detectors are. The SW I don't reall seeing them.

Thanks

Sean

[SurvivorSean]

Did I miss something about a map? Despite all the work I'm doing in the SE I'm seriously considering this. For me I would simply need to know what trains run the area (I'm not worried if it's the SP UP era either).

Obviously the beauty of the area is important but it all comes down to workload. These days we have a few regulars in the SE but it's difficult to serve anything south of Jacksonville. That's not the end of the world either but just something to consider on my end.

At first I thought no because I've put too much work into the SE, but I have been thinking about this more. I haven't even touched the YouTube videos of it I'm sure that will get me even more excited of the possibility.

Thanks

Sean